oh that's very simple. The chairman of the Israeli national bank, Prof. Stanley Fisher, said couple of weeks ago in an interview with an american finance newspaper that our economy went out from the crisis stronger than ever because the Israeli decision makers both in the national and private sectors reacted very well prior to the crash... He also said that there was some luck involved I don't remember which newspaper so I couldn't find the english version of the article. As a matter of fact, not even a single corporation went bankrupt in the crisis, including small one. And more amazingly: not even a single high-tech company. and we have lots of them. Even my self-run small internet company is doing great. Again, the last 1.5 years were very good for Israel. both from the political and financial aspects. The amount of Israeli High-Tech companies traded on wall street is second only to the US. For example, there are more Israeli-based companies listed on NASDAQ than German companies, and lets not forget that Germany is 10 times bigger. Look for the numbers yourselves if you don't believe me. Now I will say again that Israel is a wonder that the free modern world, despite your hopes and dreams, can not afford to lose. And you can laugh as much as you want .
I still do not understand what you mean by ability to see the future. how is that possible and where does it come from? are you saying that the reason israeli companies do so well is because of this ability? are you saying israelis have a supernatural advantage over non israelis. if this is true i want to know a lot more about this. by the way i am not laughing at all. and if i was laughing i would be laughing at you and your stupid comments not at israel. last i checked you only represented yourself. ps. if my grandfather spoke jewish what language did he speak? and how do you say toda raba in jewish
i do not think chaos is religious. so i do not think his assertion is religious based. if it is, then that is his proactive to believe in whatever he wants
The language is called Hebrew. I just quoted the chairman of our national bank who said that in average, the Israeli managers handled this crisis better than their western colleagues, that's all. I was not arguing for jewish psychic supremacy. Just noted that the chairman confirmed that we are good with money. As you probably already know. If you don't know ask new, he will explain everything he heard at the mosque about how we control the world banks. Our proficiency with national and private finance is the most important foundation in our miraculous survival in this insane region. that's all. I can't understand why you stick with it and don't let go. Have anything better, constructive, and more interesting to say? Moreover: I said "Israeli companies" and not "Jewish companies". 30% of the Israeli citizens are non-jewish, and another 20% are half jewish. You might be surprised to know that there are some Elite squads of the IDF which have a non-jewish majority, which includes muslims. But that's another topic. Stop making a schmok out of yourself by trying to make me one
an ashkenazim that speaks german and thinks a language called jewish is hebrew. very interesting indeed.
let's try to get back to the topic, again, some Israeli, Zionist soldiers are shocked of what they have seen in the biggest terrorist organized group called IOF, and its leadership the biggest terrorist regime on Earth which is called the Israeli Government. This is not the first time some of these soldiers get so sick of IOF practices and decide to break the silence, even before Gaza and Lebanon 2006, of course Israel will always deny these testimonies, using that excuse of they are anonymous, this makes the person ask, why would a soldier in the "democracy oasis" decide not to show his real identity while making such testimonies? remember Vanunu? I hope there will be more and more of these semi-brave soldiers who will refuse to be a part in this criminal and terrorist organization, and who will break the silence, the world also should offer protection for them, so they do not end in prisons like Vanunu and many others, for speaking the truth.
/\ Yes, this is just commonsense that why someone would chose to remain anonymous in situation like this but still some people here, instead of looking at the horrific facts that have been revealed by their own soldiers are just finding excuses to downplay them @chaos You can open a new thread and brag there about the isreali greatness and nobility
yiddish means jewish. a lot of old european jewish people in new york call yiddish jewish. never heared of anyone call hebrew jewish. what you have said here have made me wonder about you. you feel christian to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Yiddish_origin
That's nice of you to shamelessly show your ignorance to everybody. This is another important factor why Israel survives and keeps defeating its enemies: Unlike our neighbours, instead of teaching hate to our children, we teach them to respect and motivate them to learn the culture of our neighbours. Arabic is a mandatory subject in Israeli schools, before English. Allow me to educate you once again, if I may. Here's the deal with the jewish people and the languages issue: In biblical times and beyond, the common language in daily life was Hebrew. More or less the same Hebrew we use today. Yiddish did not exist back then. In the late 16-17th centuries, the Jewish communities who lived in Europe who were primarily orthodox, suddenly decided that Hebrew is too sacred to be used in daily life. Therefore, a new language for the daily use has emerged, Yiddish. Yiddish is based on the German grammar, and its vocabulary is 70% German, 20% Polish, and 10% Hebrew. The same phenomena occurred not only among the European Jews. The "sepharadic" jews (living in Spain, Morocco, and the Arab countries), developed their own daily-life variant, called "Ladino", or Judaeo Spanish. Until today, orthodox and non-zionist Jewish groups use Yiddish for daily life, but in the synagogues there is only one language - Hebrew. Most of them speak modern Hebrew as well, to "keep in touch" with the rest of the jewish people. Ladino is a dying language as there were virtually no jews left in Spain and the muslim countries. Could have been nice if you once have a chat with the "old jewish people" in new york that you mention. They won't harm you. Herzl who basically started zionism had an Yiddish speaking country in his vision. However, as the pioneers who came to the land sought for a new jewish identity, there could have been nothing more natural than to revive the old Hebrew used only in prayers and modernize it. Eliezer Ben Yehuda was the man who played the main role in the campaign for revival of Hebrew and its modernization in the 1930's. It was a big debate amongst the zionists of that time. Hebrew is the no. 1 language in the jewish world today. It would have been nice if you would have read a bit about the Yiddish wikipedia link you stupidly pasted without even reading, or you think I've never heard of Yiddish? ......... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish#Israel A friend of mine is the owner of HebrewOnline.com . He told me that Hebrew is the language with the highest ratio of (foreign)learners to native speakers in the world. Its hard to google it so I couldn't find a trustworthy confirmation. U'll have to believe him as this is what he does for a living. I am languages fan. I speak 7 langauges. To my humble opinion, Hebrew is the world's most beautiful language. It is the 3rd known set of "characters" used (like.. roman characters..a.b.c.d.e...), after the phoenicians and the aramaic. Both langauges are dead since long time, And it seems that Hebrew will continue to flourish. That's also 2500 years before the greek, and a "bit" before English. You can not imagine how exciting it is for us, when in archaeological excavations in Israel (an archeology paradise) stones are being unveiled where it is written in Hebrew, and every school pupil can read it although it was written more than 2000 years ago. I started building an online Hebrew course. Once its finished you get free membership. In the meanwhile, feel free to purchase my Online German Course, the language of physics and philosophy, a good first step to cure your profound ignorance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hebrew http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchiv...other of Languages - Influence of Hebrew on O http://www.haruth.com/YiddishHebrew.html ("yiddish means jewish".............................. )
i know what hebrew is, the point is you don't know what yiddish is. i have a few jewish friends and that is how i know so much about jewish religion and culture. just check the first link that i posted and you will see that yiddish means jewish. why is it that i can not disagree with you or argue with you and you find it necessary to say stupid things like i am scared of old jewish people or hate israel or want her destroyed. what kind of nonsense is that. that is really a stupid and disingenuous type of debate. i can disagree with you or a particular actions of the israeli govt without wanting her destroyed and it certainly does not mean that i hate jewish people or i am scared of them. as a matter of fact i found it hard to believe that someone with so much of bigotry as you can be jewish. in my experience jewish people are generally more liberal and fair minded than what you are presenting them to be.
oh.. you meant literally? I thought you meant that Yiddish is Jewish. I thought you actually meant to say Hebrew does not exist, and "real jews" (a term commonly used by new, imad, and others you usually side with) speak Yiddish. This pissed me off because I have weakness for languages. I am always confusing you with the Israel haters, too many of them around. Sorry. Yiddish means "jewish" but in Yiddish, so that's kind of chasing your own tail, when x is used to define x ... Hebrew means (sort of) "ancient". A great scholar of the Jewish culture and heritage such as yourself should know, that one of the many names for the jewish people is "the hebrews". Our souls are connected with the language in such a deep and irregular manner, that Yiddish and the other variants to evolved as a side effect... Today, Yiddish is spoken only among the orthodox communities (a minority of the overall world jewry), part of which speak Hebrew as well. There are also many jews who speak neither....
in such cases chaos, you need to apologize to pizzaman, and not to try to find a way to blame your own idiocy on others.
Oh good, the two bigots chime in with their two cents. Who cares what you two Jew haters think? All the two of you do is spout hatred at Israel and anything remotely Jewish. Maybe where you live people look up to you for hating Jews but around here you both are simply low level internet bigots. Isn't there some other thread where you guys can say something bad about a Jew or Israel?
Most Jewish people I know are agnostics and this proves nothing at all! When will the war in Gaza stop?
i argue against you.you you you. not israel, not judaisim not zionisim. you you you. you are none of those things. you are not representative of nothing but yourself and a lot of times you came across as a bigot. your beliefs bother me. your claims are ridicules. i was questioning to make sure you are jewish so i asked what was the language that a(jewish) grandfather could have referred to if he said he spoke jewish. most grandfathers fall into the age group that would have spoken yiddish and a lot of them call it jewish. as a jew and a person that knows german and take pride in his interest in language you should have known that. also no one that i know calls hebrew jewish! i still think you might be a christian hiding behind israel. that would explain some of your comments like "israelis can see the future" or "you know we are good with money".
My beliefs bother you. That's interesting, because I don't have any. I have never heared somebody who calls Yiddish "Jewish", not in English and not in any other language. But. "yiddish" means "jewish", in the yiddish language itself. The "word play" in English that you are making is really stupid. And for what reason? what is it actually that u are trying to argue? Yiddish is Yiddish, Hebrew is Hebrew and I don't really know what you want. If Yiddish would be renamed to "Jewish" in English, would that make you happy? After all, also wikipedia calls it "yiddish", not "jewish", right? So does everybody I know. On the other hand, I've never been to the states. maybe some jews do it there. This is interesting, I will have to assume that if the American jews call Yiddish "Jewish", it is something that came to exist in recent years, probably to make the non-jews ask less questions. I will ask friends about that. Interesting. Looks like you don't really know yourself what is your point, what are you actually trying to argue. You never argue anything. You get stuck on this and that word or sentence and repeat and chew and chew it until everybody pukes from hearing it again and again. Teach me something new pizzaman. An historical event, a new important personality, something. Show us that you know something beyong having childish word fights over nothing with me. In the meanwhile, feel free to stay stuck on every tiny bit of small bits of sentences and single words I said, without relating to my core arguments, if it makes you feel smart. This "Yiddish" "Jewish" conversation with you is one of the most stupid and meaningless ones I have ever had. But you know... when you drive a volkswagen beetle you can not expect to get the performance of a ferrari. I do try to get the best out of you. The "Yiddish" "Jewish" conversation seems to be the peek of your intellectual abilities. Second only to your 10 posts about my poor "could see the future" expression. You could for example argue that our economy is not stronger than ever. You could argue that our economy is stronger not because managers could "foresee" (or prepare themselves for the case of) the crisis, but because this and that and that. But instead, you made like 10 posts mocking my "could see the future" sentence, as if I am writing another phD and consider 10 times every sentence I write. make an argument, man. give reasons. try to make some sense. teach us new things we didn't know. Here are couple of examples, two arguments and one short historical view, a place for you to start: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1314696 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1317766 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1394135 Stop looking for sentence-parts and single words for the sole purpose of harassing me. It makes you look really stupid, call me a bigot. I would call you a moron for saying that I, who speak fluent Yiddish (+ Hebrew German English Russian Arabic and Spanish) don't know what Yiddish is, just because u've heard one or two persons call it "jewish". Call me a bigot again. You know, now I feel much better. If it is me that you are after ... then its ok. I thought that my nation and language are what u're after. Now I'm cool. A suggestion: Stop arguing against Me. Start arguing against my arguments and opinions. If you can, good luck. If not, keep arguing against me, I promise not to care anymore.
who cares about what we two think? it looks like you do, that's why you quoted us and replied, by the way, as I told you hundreds of times, it is not enough to say anti-Semitic or similar sentences, you also need to show why you think so
What we need is for the settlements to stop, the palestinians to stop going behind hamas and try for a more pragmatic deal and we will have a peace aggreement. We need moderates on both sides to have the real power to broker a deal.
http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/syria/archives/Israeli Kids.jpg yes to get more spies for Mossad ChaosTrivia your a typical Zionist I can see how your keenly posting to deviate discussion and you did congrats !!! I think you deserve this: BOO liar liar BOOO liar hahaha ~yoozy