I Just Got Took For 2 Domains By Compules The domains that were STOLEN were: IHYM.com iHym .com IBJF.com iBjf .com Do you think his account has been hacked? I have read about this. I have also been in the business for 11 years and have seen it. But I never thought it would happen to me. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=818736 Thats the thread. He emailed me and wanted 2 of them. I told him the total and he wanted me to push to him first since I had no feedback. I told him I wasnt gonna give no one the names without getting money first. He then sent the funds using this account: Which caught my eye at first being it was .uk and his info he sent was: Robert Watson address: 2661 Horner Street city: Akron state: ohio zip:44308 phone: 3309682415 email: Why send with .uk and have a ohio addy? Anyway, to make a long story short, I am out 2 names and know what not to do? I am now a statistic and it sucks
Pay attention to the red flags your gut feeling raises as its usually right. Sorry to see you get hit like that
are you saying he chraged back? because from what I read you said you ask money first and he sent $ to you. also as for email, it's like .asia, if you have representative form that country, you can have any domain from anywhere else or someone form that country (uk in your case) can register and share ownership.
Report the stolen names in this thread if you get a chance: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=706452 It is a fully indexed thread, usually appearing on the first or second page of Google for the term "stolen domain names" Getting your stolen names indexed as stolen will make it that much harder for the theif to resell them.
Apparently he hacked Compules account here on the forum. Also, he had sent the money using a hacked paypal account. Here is how it works (Quoted from another domain forum) This is what happend to me : Recent events have made it very evident that both PayPal and GoDaddy support and protect internet scamming, identity theft, and fraudulent account activities. PayPal and GoDaddy are giants in their respective market segments and domainers have been using both for years. Domainers trusted their domain sales and transfers in the hands of these two corporations, but I do not think that trend will continue much longer. Recently there have been a lot of scammers going on to forums and initiating sales and purchases of LLLL.com (4 letter .com domain names.) What happens is the scammer either creates a new username at a forum or he somehow hacks into a preexisting username and emulates another user. The scammer then sends out private messages (PM) to users that have posted their domains for sale and offers to buy them. Once negotiations have ended and a price has been established by both the seller and scammer, the scammer sends payment. Currently these scammers only pay via PayPal and only buy names that are registered at GoDaddy; of course, there is a reason for that. The scammer sends payment via a STOLEN or HACKED PayPal account, assuming the identity of that person. Once the seller receives/confirms payment via PayPal he or she transfers the domains registered at GoDaddy to the Scammer. In order to complete the transfer of the domain the buyer (scammer) must provide the following information: Name, Complete Address, Country, Phone, and Email corresponding to the GoDaddy account where the domains will be transferred to. Usually, the account information is manipulated to match the identical information as the stolen PayPal account, preventing suspicion. Now the seller transfers the domains to the scammers GoDaddy account. Once the domains have been transferred a confirmation PM is sent and the scammer of course says everything is perfect. The seller goes to sleep happy and the scammer is grinning ear to ear because within minutes the scammer initiates a Chargeback on the stolen PayPal account. A chargeback occurs when fraudulent activity or unauthorized purchases have occurred and PayPal immediately reclaims the funds, without question. After the chargeback is completed the funds in the sellers PayPal account are $0.00. At this point the Scammer has the seller’s domains and the seller has neither the money for the domains nor the domains themselves. This is where both PayPal and GoDaddy facilitate and condone the scammer’s getaway. The seller calls PayPal and asks,†What happened to my money?†PayPal responds with, “We are sorry sir but the funds you received for the following transaction were fraudulently acquired and the TRUE owner of the account denies initiating the transaction.†The seller then asks, “Well, do I get my money back? What about my domains can I get those back?†PayPal responds with, “Actually sir because domains are an INTANGIBLE item they do not comply with the Seller Protection Agreement and are not covered by PayPal, only TANGIBLE items are covered against charge backs. We recommend contacting your registrar to see if they can help you.†Seller says, “Ok, so the TRUE owner of the account gets his money back, the scammer gets my domains and I am left with neither! I don’t understand how this is possible. Can you provide me with information that you uncover about the scammer so I can contact him or her?†PayPal representative, “Unfortunately there is nothing we can do for you on our end. Any information that we find can only be obtained by SUBPEONA. The only thing you can do is take legal action against the perpetrator.†Seller says something along the line of, “This is unethical and you will hear from my lawyers, I will never use your services again,†and then hangs up. So that’s step one in the Scammer’s getaway. PayPal is concealing the identity of the scammer; they can easily track him or her down via a reverse IP lookup to see who initiated the transaction. They protect the TRUE owner of the account and the thief but they do not protect the seller? The seller is the one that has to pay the 3.2% fees, for what, what are those fees going towards if they cannot even protect you. If a transaction is for intangible goods then you should not be FORCED to pay their fees, there is no point. Here comes step 2 in this disappearing act. By now the seller is feeling agitated but still feels that their is light at the end of the GoDaddy tunnel. The seller checks the WhoIs.sc information for the stolen domains and sees that they are still registered to the THIEF and remain in the GoDaddy system. Surely it would be easy to reverse the transfer; it should not be that hard, you have the GoDaddy email along with all the other contact info to which the domains were transferred to…WRONG! You decide to contact GoDaddy and see what they can do. After explaining your situation to the representative they respond with this, “Unfortunately, GoDaddy does not get involved in third party disputes. This is why we have TDNAM, so you can sell your domains safely.†TDNAM is an online auction site OWNED by GoDaddy wherein the seller must pay a yearly fee of $6.95 and Escrow fees. Seller says, “WHAT! These domains were stolen from me and they are in your system. They were just transferred hours ago and I can’t get them back?†GoDaddy, “I’m sorry sir, but since these domains were not transferred via TDNAM we have no responsibility to the buyer or the seller. Once the account change is initiated and accepted we are not involved.†You go back and forth with the GoDaddy representative but get nowhere, there is nothing you can do, and you just got SCAMMED. The only way to get your domains back is by legal action or reporting the problem to ICAAN.org. Or by the grace of God you find out who the scammer is and harass them to the point of forfeiture. Other than that you are shi* out of luck and there is nothing to be done. That is how I and countless other sellers got scammed and all we can do is sit here holding the bag. We thought we were safe, but both of these companies take no initiative to solve our problems, despite the crimes involved. It is almost as if they are aiding and abeding criminals. The scammers know every angle, they choose GoDaddy and PayPal because they know that they do not pursue or amend fraudulent transfers and charge backs. The next step is to file a class action lawsuit against PayPal and GoDaddy . All I ask is that anyone that has had this occurrence please email me at benvardag@aol.***, I will compile a list of victims and their situations. Courtesy of BGMV at another forum
You may want to swap notes with these guys: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=7623100 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=7623109
I hate that "hacked forum member account" excuse.. It comes into play alot in these domain name thefts. That is what happend in my situation. It very well could be true, however it is also an easy excuse for scammers that are working in teams or with multiple identities or domainers gone bad. I wish I could get a log-in security key for my forums that I log into and also identify other membes who use the key. Like the PayPal security key that I now have.. I love it That would help alot, IMO. And all the fourm owner would have to do is get into negotiations with VeriSign.
Names have been recovered and now are back in my possession. Thank you to Godaddy and PayPal for not doing a damn thing and allowing more innocent people to get ripped off.
Bro, Congratulation! But could you share to me How the domains could back to you? I have same situation here:http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=935202 and now all the money have been reversed to the buyer and the domains still there under thief account. many thanks bro
Nice to know that you got your domains back It will be very helpful if you can share,what all proofs are required to recover the domain once stolen on godaddy
Glad you got yours back, all I keep seeing are posts about the same thing with the same name popping up again and again!!