Ron Paul's Polling Firm Behind Anti-Mormon Phone Calls

This should be a good one

I wouldn't normally EVER venture over into the rabid anti-American liberal bastion territory of "huffpo" but since so many new found "republicans" (heh!) seem to like and source huffpo here quite often, especially when it involves Huckabee, I thought "why not have a nice cup of hypocrisy this Saturday?" Cream and sugar, anyone?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/03/ron-pauls-polling-firm-b_n_79588.html

Isn't that special?

 

The liberal blogs are going after Paul pretty hard as they see so many of us (liberals) jumping from the Democrats out of disgust from the big 3 to the Ron Paul campaign due to his great foreign policy and strength on civil liberties. If the leading Democrats were talking about these things and were stronger against war and stronger on privacy and liberty then many of us never would have gone wandering over to Ron Paul in the first place.

Any way I don't find these sorts of attacks to have any more merit than the ones coming from the neocons. In fact it seems all of the entrenched interests are going after Paul, he must be doing something right!

 

The hypocrisy is thick.

HuffPo being used by GTech as a source. Priceless.

Agree with Zibblu. Besides, this isn't proof, it's an implication of guilt by association.

 

No. It's a liberal blog that has been taking shots at Ron Paul for awhile for the reasons I described. A lot of liberals are very upset that so many of their fellow liberals would rather vote for civil liberty and peace than welfare programs. I actually dig the idea of some social programs, I'm a bit of a socialist but peace & civil liberty out weighs it. I'd rather support Ron Paul than the big 3 on the Dem side.

 

Thanks for all the hypocrisy so far! This is more premium than I expected! And apparently a few didn't actually read what I posted, just saw the link, and went to work on "it's a liberal blog."

Yet some of the same people have used "huffpo" consistently as a source of "truth" to attack Huckabee and others.

Umm, umm, umm! Gotta love it!

 

I read it. It's meaningless. Ron Paul is listed as a Congressman who has used this firm. Not his Presidential Action Committee.

It's nonsense, and a smear.

 

Let's take a look at some of these new "republicans" who have souced "huffpo" to make their points:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=567086
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5915892
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5922423
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5795243
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5586337
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=5502442
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=4891782

This one is good:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5547691&postcount=15

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=544755
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=542315
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5013452&postcount=20
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5007908&postcount=19
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4699137&postcount=18
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4494836&postcount=19
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=3116819&postcount=13

Wow, as Zibblu pointed out, this is a "liberal" blog. I can't imagine why SO MANY of those "huffpo" references are made by ron paul supporters. But the poster that by far, has posted more references to "huffpo" (a liberal blog), is guerilla.

Why would all these "republicans" be sourcing a rabid liberal blog? Could it be, that things are not always, as some would like them to appear?

All those references above, are perfectly fine, but when it's about Ron Paul, suddenly it's "nonsense, and a smear?"

Oh happy days!

 

More one liner copy and paste. cant win on mossadegh, cant win on this . This isnt even getting interesting anymore. I think someone is desperately grasping for straws. Whats next, another government link to supposed finding of weapons of mass destruction? The only wmd's we found in iraq were the fleas in saddams hair that they were combing out when our soldiers found him lol.

 

Ping decides to join the hypocrisy, then for good measure, (as usual) tosses out his hero's name, mossadegh, which I've owned him on so many times, he can't keep track of. The man that destroyed his country's constitution and in dictator style, dissolved his country's parliament to assume power. Yep, I can see why you admire someone who doesn't respect his country's constitution and in dictator style, dissolves it's parliament to assume power.

Ping and dishonesty go together like beer and pretzels!

 

The real hypocrisy is you sourcing it. You've been the most outspoken critic of HuffPo on these forums.

It is a smear because it provides a conclusion without any basis in fact. Read the Client List.

 

So you support the Shah of Iran right? Can I get confirmation on this?

 

And I still am. Obviously you didn't read my first post. You are dishonestly assuming something here, however, I'm simply sourcing it to watch you and a few other "supposed" republicans who have sourced huffpo relentlessly, turn the tables now that your candidate is in the spotlight there.

So after all those references above, that you have used (most of them were yours ), you now conclude that you do not like huffpo and that they are in the business of "smearing" candidates, but only because YOUR candidate is their subject today? Is that your message?

I'm curious as to why someone has tried in vain to label them self as a conservative republican, has so many source articles to huffpo to smear others, or, prop their candidate up, but when some dirt comes out, suddenly it's a "smear?"

 

I don't support any of your friends.

Shall we try for a quick deflection here, to take the spotlight off ron paul? It's a good strategy, and it might work, if I allow it

Wanna try?

 

I'm looking at the FACTS GTech. The client list doesn't implicate Paul, but the title of the blog entry does.

Whereas HuffPo actually sourced the letters sent to Huckabee in Arkansas, from the rape victims, requesting that he not release that rapist back onto the streets. Those were verifiable facts, and great investigative journalism to turn that stuff up.

Which btw, you still haven't answered for.

 

Ad Hominem

No, just answer the question, or start a new thread. I want to know if you support that the Shah of Iran took over for Mossadeqh. Simple, yes or no answer will do.

Answer the question, here or elsewhere. But answer it, if you want to claim that "you owned Mossadeqh".

 

So you do want to try to quell any negativity about ron paul by changing the subject?

I thought so. Sorry, not going to work. Newsflash, this IS my thread. Explain why you, above any other ron paul supporter here, have regularly sourced "huffpo" for attacks on others, and to bolster your candidate's image, while pretending to be a "republican," but when that same source now puts ron paul in the hot seat, you refer to it as a "smear?"

You have unanswered questions above. Please hold yourself to at least a minimal standard that you hold me to. Please?

 

What are my unanswered questions?

Why are you running away from providing me with a Yes or No answer?

This kind of cowardice really undermines what little credibility you may have still had on this board.

Answer the question GTech. I don't run away from questions like you do.

 

Look who else used them, so I guess using this logic Bush is behind it as well. Lets see an actual connection, not simply because they used the firm. Wow give me a break.

I went to a gas station once, there was a murder there the next day, I guess I must be guilty!

 

After having read the source, it shows nothing. It shows that Ron Paul's congressional campaign has used Moore in the past as a customer. Him, along with about 40 other representatives, some senators, and a few presidential campaigns. Notice that it was his congressional campaign, not even his National Committee. What exactly is this supposed to show?

Bush almost choked to death on a pretzel, and Ron Paul has probably purchased pretzels at some point in his life. Ron Paul attempted to covertly kill Bush! That's about as much correlation as you've got here.