Interesting, I didn't know that. I've read in the news that the meaning of the name "Zahra" is white flower, and in memory of Zahra, many people are wearing and planting white flowers. But, I see you're right regarding the origin, I looked it up, "The girl's name Zahra za(h)-ra\ is of Arabic origin, and the meaning of Zahra is "white; flower"." (ThinkBabyNames). I think it's a pretty name.
Sad story but nothing compared to what is happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Kashmir and Palestine. Whole nations are suffering, you are crying over a baker!
Agreed, they take individual cases, out of 6.2 billion people among which 2 billion striving for 2 times food,dying from hunger, billions suffering at the hands of unjust war, millions spending the rest of there life as a handicap as an unjust attack. But the only thing these people can see is a baker! The reason these people can not feel the hunger for 2 billion people is because they are responsible for it. The nations growing the food for them are the ones suffering from hunger.
Betaturn, this thread is about Zahra Baker. Out of respect for this little girl, do not belittle her death. With statements such as, "But the only thing these people can see is a baker.." "you are crying over a baker!" You are blinded by hatred, in other threads you have shown your racism. You can't feel empathy because she's white, she's not a muslim... Any farther posts you make in this thread will be reported, if you would like to talk about wars...start a different thread.
I am not against any one, but the death of a single child in Palestine is no less tragic than death of a baker.
betaturn, just leave this thread if you're gonna continue this argument. Go start your own thread.. If your mom was murdered, would you like someone to come in and say that it doesn't matter since more people are dying elsewere? It doesn't make sense, so please leave if you do not have anything usefull for this thread. There are plenty of threads already about wars and things like that. Also, no child should be treated like she were. It's wierd that noone reported anything before she died.
You don't get the point I am trying to say, the point is you follow the media like a sheep, yet you claim that media does not effect your thinking. You can spend hours of your life mourning a child found dead for whatever reason. But forget the sorrows of thousands of children of Palestine, Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan becoming victims of war. Have you ever seen any report on the tragic story of a single family whose child, mother or father has died in a war. The whole life of that family is ruined. The media does not want you to think about those innocent people, they want you to keep engaged in less important things, so that you don't respond against the aggression your government is doing against these nations. Each and ever one of you is responsible for the death of every single child, mother, father lost by families ever single minute every hour, every day. Yet no one speaks against them, no one even thinks about the miseries of those families suffering for over a half century. They are also human being, there life is no less important than your life.
so sorry to see this tragic event for such flower (Zahra). I hope people became more aware of their neighbors and won't let such brutality happen. people must be more responsible I think. anyway for you information Zahra is title of Islam prophet daughter, and is a bit weird to chose it by an American native I guess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatimah in fact it's meaning is shiny face and white face that Zahra Baker had both of them I think.
Dude, there are a million stories about people loosing their family in wars, so don't act like noone cares. You should really get your facts straight and go to another thread to discuss these things. Thread hijacking is against this forums rules. An I NEVER said that their life were less important than my life.
Thank you Wulkanen, appreciate your getting this thread back on track. In answer to your last comment, the news says the abuse was reported, but apparently the Department of Social Services didn't find enough evidence to really intervene, but are now under investigation to see how they could improve. Babak, that's quite interesting (I did read the entire link). It was full of things I never knew. Thank you for sharing that and your kind comments, as always. From what I understand, Zahra Baker would have been 11 years old this Tuesday. In memory...
I hope no one will mind, but I just wanted to update this thread. In an earlier post in this thread, I quoted in part directly from The Sydney Morning Herald, and they published that Zahra was rejected by her biological mom at birth. That is kind of true, but not really. This is something I just wanted to clarify, because the mother has been a victim in all this as well. Emily Dietrich, Zahra's biological mother suffered from severe post partum depression, and believed at the time, relinquishing main custody to Adam Baker was in Zahra's best interest. But, realized she made a mistake when he took off with the child, she tried to find her for years on the Internet, but her ex kept moving. So, this has been devastating for her. Recently, Ms. Dietrich came to the US to deal with this, but has now gone back home to Australia. The father Adam Baker, has been charged and is on bail for assault with a deadly weapon, writing bad checks, communicating threats, and failing to return rental property. In a new development in the case, if law enforcement chooses to, they could place Adam Baker in a detention facility, because his work visa has expired, and so technically, he isn't here legally. With Elisa Baker, she is currently in jail, and has been unable to make bail. She set a court date to request they lower her bail, but after the judge listened to her, he decided to raise it. Elisa Baker’s biological daughter, Amber Fairchild, attended that hearing and testified against her mother, asking the judge to please not release her because she's afraid. Elisa Baker is in jail for making violent threats, stealing money, writing bad checks, and faking the one million dollar ransom note. In a new development with Elisa Baker, they are talking about possibly charging her with bigamy as well. Apparently, she was already married to another man, Aaron Young, and only got a divorce from him 13 months after she married Adam Baker! Highlights from Zahra's emotional birthday vigil: It's surprising that no murder charges have been made yet, but police say they need to complete the investigation.
Still so many questions about this case. How does the US law work when it comes to murder? Why has her father not been locked up yet and he is free roaming the US streets? Even if he was innocent here, with all the evidence they're finding out pointing to him, he would be held in custody whilst they worked it out. I can't believe that somebody accused of such a horrific crime is still walking your streets. link
I don't know. A few days ago, I read that now they believe she might have even been raped by two men. " A 10-year-old disabled girl who was dismembered after she died may have been raped by two men and hit in the head, according to a search warrant based on fourth-hand information and unsealed Tuesday." She was just a baby, not even 11 yrs. old, it's so sickening. At any age it would be, but she was just a little girl. If that's true, it sounds like Elisa Baker helped dismember her afterwards? I really don't know, that hasn't been proven yet, but as the story unfolds it just keeps getting worse. With the biological father, he's committed enough unrelated crimes, they could arrest him any time for that.
it was more than a crime or brutal murder I think. so disgusting and shoking crims. are they human? looks like a melancholia or black magic crime.
To be honest when i come across these stories, i feel like giving up my daily job and become a full time helper towards the poor and needy, just like mother teresa
I know, it's really disgusting. I keep hearing news on this, but all I really know, that's absolutely proven, is that Elisa Baker wrote a fake ransom note and at the least, helped in disposing of the body. She has confessed this to the police, and told them where her remains were. The police released this search warrant document that actually reveals her confession, along with a list of places they disposed of the body. She also made statements, that she witnessed the dismemberment of the body, and that blood, bones, and body fluids may be found in the drain tap of the bathtub. If it's true that she was raped by the two men, as alleged, hopefully they'll go to prison too. It's surprising, but no one has been charged with the murder yet, but they're still working on a thorough investigation. Babak, I had to actually look up the word "melancholia". I think that means mental disorder, right? If so, I agree, anyone that did this would have to have severe psychological problems.
No it's not a mental disorder by the most used sense . It signify deep sadness often associated whit daydreaming and the wish to be left alone whit the accent being emphasized on the second and third characteristics . But like most human emotions the word is also used to classify a mental disorder .