Zahra Baker's Difficult Life

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rebecca, Oct 13, 2010.

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    The story about the life of Zahra Baker is deeply disturbing. She may be a stranger, but this news story just breaks my heart. I wish there was a way we could protect all the Zahra Baker's in this world. She had bone cancer at 5 yrs old, a prosthetic leg, and had to wear hearing aids in both ears. Now she is missing, and the police appear to suspect her step-mother and father of murder. But before she even went missing, she was a victim of continual child abuse.

    I'm not even sure what conversation I want to spark with this thread. It's just that somehow this story is really sticking in my head, it's so sad and outrageous the way this poor little girl was treated in life. It really upsets me. I think the people that knew what was going on should have done more to help her.
     
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    Utterly inhuman.

    Really sad. Poor little girl being treated like that, something that she nor any other kid in this world does not deserve.

    This world is just full of scumbags, twisted and sick bags of flesh.
     
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    Such news make me wonder if it's a good thing we abolished the death penalty .
     
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    So far, the evidence they have against the parents is that the step-mother has admitted to writing a fake ransom note, dogs alerted to what looks like blood in their car and to wood chipper machinery at the fathers work, but they still can't find the body.

    We do in 37 states, NC where they live is one of them. Depending on the investigation, it's possible they may be candidates. But, at this point they need to gather evidence, and they've only been charged with writing a fake ransom note.

    They had a candlelit vigil for Zahra Baker, but many were angry about the abuse she endured from her parents. From the vigil:
    I know, this is just really sad.
     
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    Whit that type of hardware involved I don't think they'll ever find the body . It's pretty clear what this monsters did .
     
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    I was trying to find new updates about Zahra, and found a forum called WebSleuths where they are talking about this case in great detail. Strange forum, but apparently they try to help to solve murder cases and talk about evidence. If you look at where I posted the link, it's on the 10th thread for Zahra (they link back to other 9 threads in original post). They only have one thread about Zahra open at any one time. But, I suppose they end a discussion, or end the day, then close the thread and reopen another one. It appears they agree with you, in that Zahra was probably put in a wood chipper. That wasn't exactly my first thought (I had considered perhaps they might have used it to dispose of some evidence, but not her entire body), I was thinking of much smaller wood chippers, the kind you find at Home Depot, which is only used for dried grass and twigs. It's really a sickening thought.
     
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    Unfortunately whit some common ingredients you can make all the evidence completely disappear . The only thing that might be left is some damage on the metal structure .
     
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    It may just be wishful thinking on my part, but somehow I feel that the truth of what happened to Zahra will be brought out. The police are still trying to find her body, and analyzing other pieces of evidence. Even if they don't find the entire body, they could even get her DNA from hair in a hairbrush and compare it to any DNA/blood found, or id from teeth discovered and dental records. There may be an ingredient that can dissolve bodies, but that may not have been used. They've confiscated the vehicles, and I'm pretty sure they are taking them apart bit by bit to find any evidence. This is weird, but did you know one vehicle had a significant amount of gasoline poured in the inside of it? On the day Zahra was reported missing, but before she was reported, police came to the house because a fire was reported there, and it turns out it was a big fire in the mulch pile in the backyard. Then, they found that fake ransom note on that visit. Afterward, later in the day, they reported Zahra missing. But, somehow the police knew the step-mother wrote it, and she quickly confessed she did. But, how did they know? Then, the step-mother could have possibly been arrested that day anyway, she's in trouble for so many crimes. A month before this happened she was making threats to kill a mother and her 7 mo old baby, also for theft and writing bad checks. It turns out too, they have a wood chipper at home and at work. From some accounts I've read cadaver dogs have alerted on both the wood chipper at there home and at work? They've also confiscated their computers and are analyzing those closely for evidence, along with all phone records. I think they have much more evidence than that, and I was trying to read through it all on that forum but just don't have the time. I just really hope that whoever harmed this sweet little girl (and I do tend to think it's the parents), will be discovered. It won't bring Zahra back, but at least there would be a certain level of satisfaction if her killers don't walk free.
     
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    Well criminals are usually dumber then a plank so I'm pretty sure they'll get the maximum sentence , to much evidence points at them . Although I now after getting accustomed whit the news I believe that spending the rest of life in prison is much more fitting .
     
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    Thanks for your comment Apocalypse, I think so too.

    Below is a video that sums up the news of Zahra. It doesn't appear professionally done, but I thought it was an informative video regardless:

    [video=youtube;WFZGMz1t0G4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFZGMz1t0G4[/video]

    Below is a video of police activities in Zahra's home today. I didn't watch this entire video, but news I've read today is that they confiscated her mattress, bed frame, and headboard plus two additional bags of evidence from the house. From the uploader of this video, "Police Investigators are asking if you know anything about this case that you notify them immediately.

    Zahra is about 5'1" tall, weighs 85 pounds, has blue eyes, and short reddish, blond hair. She was last seen wearing a camouflage army T-shirt and black knee-length tights.

    If you have seen Zahra or know anything about this case, please call the Hickory Police Department 828-328-5551, 911"

    [video=youtube;JxkmSg5--O0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxkmSg5--O0[/video]

    From what I understand, police have already had 100 reported call in leads with additional information.
     
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    The police have been working diligently to solve this case. Every other day, I keep reading of new updates. After learning that the parents threw away Zahra's bed a few days before they reported her missing, it appears that they've found the old bed and are now doing DNA testing on it. It's almost certain they've found Zahra's prosthetic leg along a highway, but are waiting for confirmation from authorities in Australia (where she got the prosthetic leg) to send them the serial and identifying numbers inscribed on her leg. The step-mother remains in jail, but they've announced she began cooperating a few days ago:
    According to media, the step-mother is still claiming she had nothing to do with Zahra's disappearance. If that were true, why would she write a ransom note designed to throw the investigation off, and why are the police driving her around to figure out where to search? I do have hope that this won't turn into another missing child case, and that new developments will solve this case quickly.
     
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    She's either feeling complete guilt (in which I think is highly possible) or She's been forced to take responsibility for it so that the cops can say that there are 'leads' to the case. Again, either way, I just hope that Zahra will be found soon. It is just sad and painful to think what the kid has and is currently going through.
     
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    They've found parts of Zahra's body. She was murdered. It's heartbreaking to think someone would do something like this.

    [video=youtube;CHKXEMN-6zw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHKXEMN-6zw[/video]

    Australia has been keeping up with this, since her biological mother is Australian. From the Sydney Morning Herald:

     
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    It truly is scary . I simply fail to understand how on Earth you can think of murdering a child's smile . How can you be so sick to plan to kill a innocent little girl ?
     
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    It sounds so far like the mother here, and father / stepmother there, should ALL be living in jail for the rest of their sad excuses for a life without possibility of parole. It's for people like this that there needs to be a 'painful death penalty' option back on the table. How about bringing back burning at the stake or maybe a 'stoning' is more apt in this situation? Selfish scum like these people do not belong in this world. Yes I would be happy throwing the first stone, or would hold them as I'm lowering their legs into the meat grinder without pain-killers of course, and stopping at the knees, then throwing them in jail (without painkillers) to let them deal with their pain, forever!
     
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    No stoning or burning but some type of slave labor might be in order . Anyway Bubba is gonna love the dad . Child murderers always get raped in the big house and this guy is going in for life ;)
     
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    Unfortunately most will be segregated from the 'normal' delinquents and, although it may be a little tough, rape & worse is virtually unheard of in these situations. Yes they get sex, but it's mostly consentual. Stone & burn is the only way to guarantee sufferage.
     
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    Maybe Australia has a move evolved prison system . Over here rapist , child molesters & murderers get trainraped by the rest of the inmates . Sometimes even the guards turn a blind eye just to let them suffer .
     
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    I know, it's incomprehensible. It's hard to think of. At this time, no murder charges have been filed. I feel confident that they will be, probably soon. But, the police and FBI still have investigative work to be done on this case. It's possible they may confess, a relative went to visit Elisa Baker (step-mother) in jail, and Mrs. Baker is making statements that "she doesn't see why she should have to take the blame for something her husband did" insinuating the blame should go to her husband. (CNN)

    They also have letters she's written in jail to an outside party in which she states, "He knows what happened to Zahra and yet I'm the one in here at least for now," (WBTV)

    I don't know, but my gut feeling is they are both responsible. Especially with the fact that so many people have witnessed Elisa abusing Zahra, and her fake ransom note. But, law enforcement will have to figure this out and find the truth.
     
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    I guess you are right.
    what Zahra suffered is beyond my image. so shocking story I think.

    Zahra is an Arabic name!
     
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