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WTF Kiddie Porn Site!!!

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by suzigeek, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #41
    Absolutely! My question was why it matters who is hosting the domain and who actually owns that site? That is insignificant.
     
    Blogmaster, Mar 2, 2005 IP
  2. Thewormman

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  3. skattabrain

    skattabrain Peon

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    #43
    wouldn't hurt to grab IP's with domains in the future ... that way when the 5th generation of this filth comes out from the same bastard it never passes validation without manual inspection.
     
    skattabrain, Mar 3, 2005 IP
  4. ThomaSeidler

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    #44
    Hey brothers & sisters,

    Am interested to hear this stuff. Blatantly some folk are using this who are gaining money from all angles of the sex industry, in my mind the Sexy Costumes one should not be an ad on the system either.

    (sorry sister if you're reading this, I read your posts, and you seem fine enough), but your ads are appearing on sites for kids, Christians, families all sorts - and their graphical content means I can't allow the ad - even once on my site www.thegoodbook.co.uk, so I can't run co-op network ads now. It gives my site damage to have that kind of rep too.

    Ok, so now we come to positive solutions:
    i.
    sites are checked daily to see if class identifier for ads comes up - if site is running ads, so can surely simultaneously check for an array of words like 'sexy', 'sex' in whole code fairly swiftly - might be in image alts etc.; then produce list for manual checking - might be OK in context. This would not immediately catch someone where maybe not every page had it, but it would be acceptably swift enough, as once caught & dealt with, they never do it again or go - and its probably just one or two apples in the bunch of us that are trying to promote sites that are heading towards the 'adult' direction
    ii. 3 strikes and you are out policy - once warned (unless kiddie porn etc vileness - clearly a wrong 'un so go for good), twice 1month/3month ban, thrice - 1 year? or for good? - gives people a chance if they pushed the boundaries once, or accidentally, maybe someone who used their site put up a bad page, they could kick it off.

    Problems remaing:
    i. how to deal with legitimate sites gaining weight and using it to link to unchecked sites - which are not ever checked? Introduce an infrequentis random checking across such a site perhaps? with again such a three strikes and out policy

    ii. But what if aggressive adult promoters just kept registering under new names & accounts...?? They could just swamp Sean and cru...
    The IP grabbing idea? ?

    Though it might take time to implement, it would be well worth this semi-automation i suggest as it would maintain the involvement of high-weight sites and therefore the value it can offer, whereas at present my director is not entirely happy with me using it to promote site cos sometimes very unpleasant things slip thru for a while. This method would keep it reliably clean in a way I could convince my boss of. The coding requirement ain't too additionally harsh, but maybe the servers would be pushed too much to do the additional array word match?

    What do peeps think? Any other ideas? Should we set up a poll on it> this thread system doesn't seem to offer one... - i could do it on my site if desired

    anyways, laters,

    sleep well,

    tom
     
    ThomaSeidler, Mar 4, 2005 IP
  5. wendydettmer

    wendydettmer Peon

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    #45
    There are guidelines in place for what can and cannot be in the network, but currently all ads are manually checked out, so there isn't a problem of sites linking to unchecked sites.

    As far as the sexy costumes go, that is quite a grey area. Personally, I have no problem with it. There are always going to be sites that may infringe on anothers morality but that does not make them wrong. It seems like you are heading down a slippery slope there. But sexy costumes does not equal porn. Personally, I have no problem with adult sites, but can totally understand why they are not in the ad network, as linking to potential bad areas can harm a site.

    as far as 'adult direction' goes, where would the line be drawn? There are several informational sites out there that go into details, but they are very clean and appropriate, yet are of sexual content.

    While i could be misreading what you are saying (and please correct me if I am), it sounds like you are saying that sexual content of any kind means it is inappropriate. Educational, clothing, etc. Just because something is 'sexy' does not make it inappropriate for families. You also talk about weeding out sites that are 'heading in an adult direction', but there is no indication that a clothing store is going to become an adult site.

    I understand your position as to why you may not want to run it on your site, but to say that means the sites are wrong to have in the coop is somewhat of a jump in my opinion.
     
    wendydettmer, Mar 4, 2005 IP
  6. ThomaSeidler

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    #46
    peace & love out there,

    but would you think it appropriate for an Anne Summers section to be next to a kids toys in a shopping precinct? well, i dunno, call me old fashioned (you have checked the site eh? www.hustlerpanties.com)... but noticed its stopped appearing so often, so have put my site on for a while

    Sexual health & advice sites different fish altogther, education... - i mean several of our sites www.thegoodbook.co.uk/Christian-Life/Sex bang on about sex a fair bit, surprisingly
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    the manual checking is just the problem i was trying to suggest a way round. cos the kiddie porn person submits a perfectly cosha ad to get round this, then changes the image the url refers to in the case of banner ads & the content at the destination. only way round it is some sort of automation to alert Shawn & cru if a destination has developed more words in the array than you passed last time or md5 of image has changed...

    anyway, later on ;)
     
    ThomaSeidler, Mar 4, 2005 IP
  7. Diamondbacks

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    #47
    About the last thing I want to hear from my kid as I walk in the room is... "Look at all these pretty girls" [click-click-click]

    With that said, I think the reviewers are doing a good job.
     
    Diamondbacks, Mar 4, 2005 IP
  8. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #48
    Hang on, guys... the improvements are coming and you will be able to select what kind of sites will show on your site...
     
    fryman, Mar 4, 2005 IP
  9. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #49
    I have porno sites that show up as referrals, they do it so they can get you to click into their site from your logs, they are smart as hell and will do anything to get traffic. Some of them were using "ringtone" portals to get in the logs on a internet research site I run, so it has nothing to do with your keyword, they do it to anyone or any site.
     
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  10. wendydettmer

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    #50
    I have seen the site and don't have a problem with it, but we are entitled to disagree :) Besides, RL is a bit different then online, it's not like there is a picture of the stuff on your site, just a text link. Although Victoria secrets is rather close to KB Toys in our mall :)

    to clarrify again about the kiddie porn site, there were no links pointing TO that site, rather they were running ads on THEIR site. The risk was not that their link would appear on your site.

    I think in your case (and others as well) when the coop implements categories, you will have much more control over what appears on your site, and will help solve the issue for ya.

    It's not that I don't agree that you should have a say what goes on your pages, it's just that I don't think there is anything wrong with the site and I would hate to see it out of the coop.

    later :)
    wendy
     
    wendydettmer, Mar 4, 2005 IP