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Will Google Penalize the Coop? - A Coop Comparison - If you are new - A Must Read

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by ProductivePC, Feb 17, 2005.

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  1. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #41

    Welcome to DP. :) Try this tool . You can check MSN and others all at once. You can also check many domains at once...see how you stack up against the competition.
     
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  2. ProductivePC

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  3. Toopac

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    #43
    Google can't just ban or penalize a site for off site SEO or linking ect as a search engine doesn't know who is doing this work/tricks/linking...

    Otherwise i could just use coop to improve my sites ranking by using my weight on competitors web sites to get then penalized so i move up higher in the SERP's...
     
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  4. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #44
    Your theory is good and what most consider correct. However, Google CAN do as they wish. That is not to infer that they have/ will ban COOP member sites.

    I thought this thread died along time ago?

    See here for a current COOP ranking experiment.
     
    Homer, Jun 12, 2005 IP
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    Angus Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Noticed lately that in my ads at the bottom of my site I now have co-op loading a 1x1 pixel image. This would seem like a VERY easy way for Google to detect and ban co-op members. Anyone else concerned about this, and whats it for anway ?

    <img src="http://ads.digitalpoint.com/t-25203-39817-25203-8532-761.gif" width="1" height="1" />
    Code (markup):
     
    Angus, Jun 14, 2005 IP
  6. yfs1

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    #46
    Its been this way for a few months...Run a search as its been discussed in length.

    Shawns position is its needed for tracking and its here to stay for now.

    Cheers
     
    yfs1, Jun 14, 2005 IP
  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #47
    Been discussed before... unless Googlebot starts spoofing as a user agent that can utilize it, they wouldn't see it. It's only shown to known browsers that could actually use it (it's used to track real end user traffic, and not bots and stuff).
     
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    #48
    Isn't this somekind of Reverce User Agent cloaking?
    You should have expected this question?
     
    air, Jun 17, 2005 IP
  9. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #49
    Reverse user agent cloaking? Never heard of that one, but if you consider serving content based on things certain user agents can utilize cloaking, then I suppose so. But that means almost every major site is guilty of it.

    For example, this forum software (vBulletin) only serves up the DHTML menu system to user agents that can understand it, which is why Google's cache doesn't have DHTML menus:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:forums.digitalpoint.com

    Google does it as well. In their search results, if you are using Internet Explorer for Windows without Google's desktop search installed, you will get a message at the bottom of the results telling you about it and giving you a link to it.

    Same general idea...
     
    digitalpoint, Jun 17, 2005 IP
  10. City2

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    #50
    Rotating links dont work well with ranking google but its great for advertizing.
     
    City2, Jul 13, 2005 IP
  11. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #51
    Which makes me believe that the coop won't get penalized. The rankability factor is another thing, but that is where the risk lies. A program designed to "just increase rankings" and nothing else, is risky.
     
    Blogmaster, Jul 30, 2005 IP
  12. ProductivePC

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    A lot of people say that but the 1 year anniversary is coming up and I still hold numerous number 1 positions or first page positions for our web site; including Google. No penalties here. I have been in since December of last year.
     
    ProductivePC, Jul 30, 2005 IP
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    #53
    Congrats Wayne! Holding any term for a full year is an accomplishment...
     
    Cygnus, Jul 30, 2005 IP
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    #54
    Just curious, how are you doing in Yahoo with the same KW?

     
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  15. ProductivePC

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    #2 position in Yahoo (only after we signed up for their directory though... couldn't get past 30 without it)
    #7 Google (Thank You Ad Network)
    #2 - #7 MSN. We jump around daily on that one.

    That is for the main keyword phrase. We have numerous others as well.
     
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    #56
    What comes up must come down :) But I don't think the coop will have probs in the future. I am not sure what the search engine ranking side-effect to the advertising problem will turn out to be, but other than maybe losing a little bit of power when it comes to increasing rankings, I don't see any :) I have never joined the coop, but I think I'm about to hehe
     
    Blogmaster, Aug 1, 2005 IP
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