Why Pakistan can't Succeed in its Kashmiri Dream?

It is not just Pakistan that is wanting to divide India but many Muslims living in and out of Pak and India want to see this. It's a different matter it's not going to happen. Here is why.

Some background
Historically Islam has followed a regimen of overruling and destroying truth and religious faiths which yielded it control over strategic geographical areas. The areas under Pakistan and Afghanistan were under the Indian rule before the islamic invasion.

The way islam extended eastwards of Mecca was resisted in the core of India but somehow it managed to make some in roads into the part of Jammu & Kashmir. Yet, Kashmir was under British and Hindu rule till 1947 and now it is an Indian province acceded to the Dominion of India through the Instrument of Accession like other provinces such as Tripura, Mizoram etc.

The state of Jammu and Kashmir is governed by dividing it into 14 districts (four of which are created in 1979) falling into 3 different sectors.
The Jammu Sector
The Kashmir Sector
The Ladakh Sector

Population Demography of Jammu and Kashmir
Since the decadal census was introduced in 1901, the state of Jammu and Kashmir has shown slightly less growth in population as compared to the rest of the country.

The total population of the state is 800,3792 per census of 2001. Population of Kashmir sector is 397,6395 which is slightly less than 50% of the total. Census couldn't be conducted in 1991 in the state due to the heightened state of militancy but Islamic militants have either killed or expelled about 300,000 Hindus and other religious groups out of Kashmir valley during that period which leaves it with 95% Muslim majority.

The Jammu and Ladakh sectors have roughly about 45-50% muslim population which effectively makes the State of J&K the only Muslim majority state in India.

Why Pak wants to split Kashmir?

1. Pakistan imagines it is historically wronged and wants to correct it; that it was created without a couple of Muslim provinces going its way.
2. Pakistan wants to revenge the series of defeats it had from Indian army since its creation
3. Pak wants to avenge its vertical division done by India creating a new country out of it
4. Pakistan imagines that Kashmir is a Muslim majority province and hence its actions are right

Why Pakistan Fails
Obviously Pakistan fails like it did on four occasions. Here is why

1. It has no buyers for its theories that India is occupying J&K illegally
2. UNO, Pakistan and the British have recognized the accession of J&K to India as legitimate and full & final
3. Pakistan, an economically failed state, can't sustain its present campaign
4. There are no real supporters to Pakistan's claim

Pakistan should really give up its illegitimate ambitions and must concentrate on development and growth which it badly needs.

 

The eternal sweater . A conflict similar to Israel and the Palestine . Funny that both hotspots are caused in the large part by Islam vs the rest . In the rest of the world there are tons & tons of territorial disputes but none have lasted for so long as this two . And none have been caused so much pain on both sides .

 

Well said alevoor. However still nations are considering Pakistan a terror-fighting nation and giving them money which is always used for weapons against India. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1979861

Also your last line is something Pakistan needs to implement immediately.

 

That's true Apocalypse, And in both the cases, Islamists are perpetually losing. As I said and as you pointed out, only Israel and core India have resisted islamic expansion which it did from Mecca to Malaysia.

Laxman363
I kind of half agree that nations perceive Pakistan as a terror fighting country. US for one, has strategic interests in the region, which is pushing it to USE Pakistan. The inverse of this is US doesn't like Pakistan to progress for the fear of losing a crucial land base

 

Charles Martel stopped the Islamic conquest of Europe at the Battle of Tours in 732, although the Muslims maintained rule over parts of Spain until 1492.

 

In response to the thread's question: "Why Pakistan can't Succeed in its Kashmiri Dream?"

Ans. It needs to wake up from its Baluchistan nightmare first.

 

Yes. Read my last point in the OP.

 

so what u r saying Alevoor is Pakistan should give up ? Be practical, you don't expect a country to give up its dream. A peaceful resolution must be made and not giving up, you are hurting a nation's sentiments - that's really bad of u. You act too selfish and you are getting obsessed with that

sorry for my harsh words, its a reality with your recent posts I made my judgment on

peace!!!

 

Next time you respond to Alevoor, add a bracket with abbreviation of Peace Be Upon Him. For example:

Alevoor(PBUH) should not be selfish

 

Germany and Japan gave up their dreams in 1946.

 

It wasn't exactly their dreams . More like the dreams of a couple of nutjobs .

 

Those few were supported by large majorities of their fellow citizens.

 

The masses exist to be manipulated

 

Alevoor(PBUH) and Masterio, stop fighting like cats and dogs.

Will and Apocalypse, agreed. Especially masses which are heavily bombarded with propaganda

 

Trying to kick someone out of the room is just a one-way fighting.
And would you be kind enough to tell me why on earth are you suffixing my name with that nasty thing? Sense of humor or something else?

 

now who crossed the line kisse ne ghusse ke bare mein maaphi maang raha tha ek aur thread pe. "Good for nothing" may be I have to wish u the same but I don't since I have my decency levels and I try to maintain it. When you can't take criticism you must not debate.

I never said others shouldn't think and would never say as well. Your statement should have been phrased as "We aren't the only intelligent and not you are"

@Will: Japan and Germany were greedy for capturing more land for themselves like British and other regimes did, but the Indo-Pak issue is a total different one. Its not for greed. One must understand that, Kashmir was always a majority muslim state. It joined with India only after Pak rebels came steaming down upto Sri Nagar to get the land for themselves. So, till then it was a neutral one and it demanded complete independence under the then King, this was denied by the British govt. They were given 2 choices join with India or go with Pakistan. The decision to join with India was taken after the pak invasion and Nehru forced to join India as else India would not be legally eligible to wage a war in the region.
Finally, what I am concluding is, there is nothing giving up or winning on a side. A peaceful resolution must be passed by both nations which should help in maintaining peace and calm.

@sar: lol! I am not fighting and never was, I am putting my pts at a pt.blank range I am not a dictator to say the least. Every one's opinions are respected and should be

peace!!!

 

There is certainly evidence to support the theory that they want to be manipulated.

 

Where are you? Why are you silent?

 

sar, can u filter urself from using animals in our regular discussions, we are insulting them bad poor creatures !

 

Forgive me Alevoor(PBUY), I was busy leading a happy day in the real world. Please consider this an act of kindness, whereby I pray that you get peace in your life so that your verbal violence ceases