Why is this guy coming up so high?

Discussion in 'Google' started by DinoCagney, May 24, 2008.

  1. #1
    There is 1 guy pretending to be 5 different companies, that is coming up really high on Google.

    If you search "Boston Condos" or "Boston Real Estate" in Google --- he has about 5 websites that come up in the top 10

    They are:


    BostonREB*com
    boston*condodomain*com
    Boston-condos-for-sale*com
    anthjames*com
    bostoncondoguy*com


    He basically pretends they are 5 different companies, however it is just one person.




    Do you guys know why his sites are coming up so high?? Is it because of backlinks??


    THANKS!!
     
    DinoCagney, May 24, 2008 IP
  2. CanzDesign

    CanzDesign Guest

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    Hi Dino

    I only looked at the for-sale domain name, the reason that site is coming up so high in search engines is because quite frankly he deserves to. He's obviously either spent a lot of times developing that particular website or paid someone to do it. The SEO is done really well, and I would guess the other sites are the same.

    Buying a domain name only costs about $5 and theres nothing wrong with buying several domain names, and developing several sites, in fact from an SEO point of view it's a very sound idea, you can then set up links between your own sites, blogs, utube videos etc etc, and at least you know that the sites you trade links with are actually going to be fair, and not delete your link, a month later.

    The mistake many people make with buying several domains and developing them, is the use the exact same content on each page, if this is done google tends to ignore the replica sites after a while, (so many people say) but if each site has fresh content on each site, new content is added regularly, then multiple domains can work well.

    I have also heard that some big company's target each domain name at a different target market, so say with a travel agent, that might have a domain name of say seniorworldtravel.com and the whole website including the pictures they use are directed at the senior age group, then they may have another website directed at the midlife group, and again the words and pictures would be directed at 40-50 age group, etc etc....

    about two hours later...... I just took another look at the site I mentioned above, with all the rss feeds, and therefore new content being added all the time, I would forget tring to compete for anything that site is ranking well for.... that site rulz SEOwise.

    Cheers Lynn
    SEObyCanz.com
     
    CanzDesign, May 24, 2008 IP
  3. luzdios

    luzdios Banned

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    the guy must have really sweat hard for this as i am seeing the domains are not too old to get such results.
     
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    sweetfunny Banned

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    He has got a stack of links flowing in to his network such as PR8's from places like Boston.com as well as PR7's and PR6's from strong authority realty and financial sites.

    He seems to be well recognized in his niche, and has some really good content. All i can say is good on him, wrapping up 5 of the top 10 spots is a great tactic which i've done on many keywords myself.

    There's nothing wrong with what he is doing.
     
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  5. DinoCagney

    DinoCagney Peon

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    O yes I totally agree --- the guy is good at SEO, without a doubt -- totally nothing wrong w/ having all of those sites --- he's good @ SEO point blank

    The guy is however, a well-known sneaky bastard in the city

    The question is ---- why are they so high up there? I'm sure its a combination of things --- but would you say backlinks are the #1 factor???
     
    DinoCagney, May 25, 2008 IP
  6. JohnS0N

    JohnS0N Notable Member

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    This can't be a one man job. Maybe SEO'ing it yes, but posting new content on each of those websites/blogs is just too much for one man to handle. This must probably be a team entirely devoted to these websites.

    It has been said backlinks are 90% of SEO. Along with proper semantics and updated unique content you can't go wrong.
     
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    tattoos Prominent Member

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    I thought you new how?

    Google Glitch Exposed!!!! Get To #1 In Only 1 Night!!! This Is Real!!!!

    Or didn't management end up telling you?
    Just curious,

    Cheers
    James
     
    tattoos, May 25, 2008 IP
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    #8
    theres nothing wrong with multiple sites! its a great thing.
     
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  9. zexy

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    He is just trying to dominate the niche.
    And with so much sites it's easy to get related links that Google loves so much :)
     
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  10. Spider-Man

    Spider-Man Banned

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    #10
    It's just like supermarkets.

    They open one, then another...and another...and another..until they dominate the market in that particular area. Unfortunately this is replicated all over the web, especially as CanzDesign stated - for example, set up a website about technology. Create a site about phones, another for laptops, another for televisions...etc, link them all together, and bang, you're top of the rankings. The biggest mistake people do in this is use the exact same registration details and keep the sites on the same server. Google is wising up to this tactic, but in a very slow manner. Ask Matt Cutts what he has to say on this, could be interesting.
     
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    Talking about that... do you think WHOIS privacy protection could help in case like this.
     
    zexy, May 25, 2008 IP
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    #12
    In my honest opinion, there are so many tools and sites on the the net that can pull up the whois info of a domain almost instantaneously, I'd be surprised if Google doesn't..(or won't in future)...look into this factor. It has surely got to be the easiest and quickest way to identify these tactics - same owner, all sites linking together. That's my take on this matter, though I'd be highly interested to hear a real Google Boy come up with an answer to this.
     
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  13. DinoCagney

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    #14
    Looks like his sites are well maintained. He isn't doing anything wrong- he provides a good service from what I can tell.

    Heck, if you have the domains, why not use them? :)
     
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    #15
    Simple answer: He deserve it.
     
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  16. JohnAKeith

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    #16
    H-O-L-D on a second ...

    Sorry, just found this site; if any of you are still reading this thread, a couple of points of clarification.

    First: those five sites are not run by the same person. There are three people with three different companies, completely.

    I run the Boston Real Estate Blog, or as you put it, BostonREB * com.

    I have never done anything to punch up my search engine results. It is all organic. As you can see if you visit my site, I have over 3,400 entries during the past three years. So, it's a matter of quantity, I assume, as much as quality.

    The other two people whose sites you mention do run a couple sites each. I don't understand the reasoning behind it, but I'm sure it must be SEO-related. They exist, they are real people, and all three of us are real estate agents.

    When you say this, "The guy is however, a well-known sneaky bastard in the city," I am certainly assuming you mean one of the other guys, since my own reputation is impeccable. (Is that really how you spell it?)

    I'm lucky to be on page one of Google for "boston real estate" and on page two for "boston condos". It surprises me, as well.

    (** Oh, when I say I haven't done anything to punch up my numbers, I forgot to mention I use the SEO-in-one plug-in from Word Press. But I assumed that it never really worked. I don't know. I was already on page 1 before I installed it.)

    WHOIS shows my registration information so you can tell I'm for real. The other guys probably cloak their sites' ownership, for a variety of reasons.

    I was on a computer recently and I swore I saw my site with a Google Page Rank of 8 ... but now it's back to a 6? I never pay attention. Well, when it was an 8 I did. Sort of like stars and reviews, I guess. They only read them when they're good.

    If you have any SEO questions for me, leave them here and I'll respond. Thanks! (Well, except for the guy who called me a sneaky bastard ...)
     
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  17. DinoCagney

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    Take a look @ the above guy's website.... he's claiming he's "lucky to be up there, and not using any SEO"..... do you really buy that he hasnt used any SEO, and is just "lucky to be up there"...... he has a whole SEO team, but for some reason doesnt want to admit it


    Also -- there's a lot of BS'ing being done on your behalf for some reason....

    I looked on bostoncondoguy.com .. his MLS signup..... saw his MLS #.... looked him up, he works for your company.......................... also, boston-condos-for-sale.com links heavily to bostoncondoguy.com

    Nothing personal against you.... but you are def a B.S. artist......... we don't directly compete (yet) anyways I do mostly the Brighton / Allston area..... but here's what I gotta say: Our Boston Real Estate blog is on its way to the top and Larry Bird's mustache lives on!!!
     
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  18. JohnAKeith

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    #18
    I don't know where you're coming from.

    Your original comment was something along the lines of "there is one guy and he owns five sites". That's inaccurate, meaning, wrong. There are three guys. I run one site BostonREB*com and have a broker's license.

    The person who runs the two sites you mention has his salesperson's license under my broker's license. He is a real person who has two sites. What he does in regard to SEO, I don't know.

    The third person you mention has two sites and has his own broker's license; you can prove this by doing the same thing you did with the other - check MLSPIN.

    The other two guys use SEO techniques, I'm sure. I can emphatically state 100% that the BostonREB*com site never used anything - how do you think the other nine sites get on page 1 of Google? I mean, someone's got to be there. Not everything is "sneaky" just because it works.

    I told you, I have 3,400 posts and 4,000 comments; I assume that the # of pages I have contributes to my ranking.

    I spent three or four hours a day researching stories and writing up posts, adding 3-4 entries a day. Perhaps this had something to do with it.

    If you want to see my whole "SEO team" I can post a picture here. I hope you like dick though, because I'm in my underwear as I write this.

    I think you enjoy this type of conversation more than I.
     
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  19. Rasputin

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    Dino, I don't know your site or what SEO you or John Keith have done, who owns what, or who works for who - but that bostonreb.com site looks to me like a good site, with lots of useful information, and easy to use search facility. The type of site that people actually link to because it's high quality, which takes it up the SERPS (although I prefer to see a few house pictures on a real estate site!)

    Ultimately that is what makes a site successful, and although google often get it wrong they are also pretty good at spotting quality sites, regardless of SEO efforts.

    If your site is just as good, then give it time and you'll be up there as well.

    Good luck!
     
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  20. mistyweb

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    There is nothing wrong with running more than 1 website or using SEO techniques as long as it's not blackhat.
     
    mistyweb, Aug 27, 2008 IP