What's Your Opinion on Our FIRST Woman/Black President?

Its so secretive that you know (and AGS - but with a different outcome) and thousands of internet sites know about it. They are pretty shitty at keepin secrets. For a super secret occult organization, that is..you'd think they'd do better with hundreds of years of running the world and everything.

The rest of your post. Ugh. Just torturous. Your whole premise that tv shows lead the general public to desire things they'd normally detest is pretty silly - especially given than 90% of people don't even watch the shows or know that palmer is black. Given that the commander in chief show was cancelled almost immediately, you'd have to conclude that we are not ready for a woman president right? AGS' reading of illuminati scripture begs to differ.

 

The biggest irony of this whole thing is that it is only on the Internet that I get this information. In 2004, I didn't know anything about the Illuminati or One World Government Conspiracies. But I was searching for the truth, and I did research on political history.

I never learned about it is in school, or in the few years I spent in college. I had to get the information, which could be proven, from the Internet. In other words, without the Internet, I would not know anything about the Illuminati.

I will say this much though. No matter who gets in the White House in 2008, if they are one of the major candidates, they will be puppets on the strings. Only if the underdog gets in will I have hope for America, but I get the feeling that won't happen.

It is possible that Hillary may not win. Nothing in this world is certain. Things change over night. What I do know is that Hillary has been groomed to win, and no matter who gets in, you can be rest assured they will follow the agenda of their masters. The Republicans are finished, and this only leaves the Democrats. It will come down to Barack Obama, Hillary, or John Edwards. Everyone of these individuals has a globalist agenda.

If a miracle occurs, and John McCain or Giuliani get in, they too, have an globalist agenda. Iran will still be attacked, and the troops will likely stay in Iraq. When you look at it that way, are the major Dems and Rep candidates really all that different?

I just hope Americans can think outside the box, but I sure won't hold my breath............

 

The real question. Are the illuminati too smart to be human, Tesla?

 

You have just perfectly summed up why Bill O'Reilly, FOX News and all the other neocon supporting idiots are starting to worry.

Many people are so reliant on mainstream news where they believe absolutely everything that channels like FOX tell them, hell, one of their slogans on FOX is "News you can trust."

They are getting worried because many of their viewers do not even have access to the internet and therefore have no idea that there is a rapidly growing group of people doubting the official fairytale on 9/11.

That is why truthers need to get the information out to the people and Mark Cuban funding the new release of Loose Change with Charlie Sheen narrating might just wake a few of these damn sheeple up. It will be going viral hopefully and already FOX are starting the age old kook BS to prepare the sheeple for it, because a lot of the sheeple rely on FOX news and other MSM outlets to do their thinking for them.

See my excellent thread for more details buddy:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=278019

Backed up with loads of links from Watson and the PP crew.

The truth will out. Keep up the fight for the truth!

 

Wow, the million dollar question. That is something I think about often, and to be honest, I don't really know. Sometimes it seems that they are, but here is what I know for a fact:

1. The Illuminati believes in the occult and esoteric matters. They are obsessed with technology and numerology. They have to do things with specific numbers.

2. They worship Diana and Molech, as well as Baal. They are also considered to be Luciferian. The symbols they admire the most are the Pyramid, and the Owl. They also like the Obelisk. You think me and AGS are crazy Lorien? You got a dollar bill on you right now? Take a look at the back, at the triangle with the all seeing eye at the top. What do you think that stands for?

I will tell you. The pyramid with the all seeing eye is just what it implies. The Illuminati are "illuminated" they sit at the top of the pyramid, and they watch over and control humanity. They possess secret knowledge that is supposed to be kept from the public.

Why do they like the Owl? Simple. The Owl has always been a bird of wisdom. It can see in both the light and the dark. The Illuminati believe they can see in both the light and the dark, unlike their prey, the general public, that can only see in the light.

If you don't believe me, look at Washington DC. There is so much occult statues there, the city is said to have the layout of a pentagram.

I don't know everything. I have a book called Codex Magica, that shows powerful and famous people around the world giving strange handshakes and making poses. It is a good book written by Texe Marrs. You should get a copy. You would be surprised by what you find.

The days of the mainstream media are rapidly coming to an end. The Internet is the future, and they want to shut it down, but boy do they have a problem on their hands.

 

AGS, do you think the illuminati are too smart to be humans?

 

Well. Let's assume that they are not. This post suggests that aliens are controlling them. So, if the illuminati arent the highest on the chain, then someone controls them, too.

Doesn't that just blow your mind?

 

I challenge anyone here at Digital Point to explain the back of the One dollar bill, the Pyramid with the eye at the top. I asked a lady at my local bank one day, and she couldn't tell me. Doesn't that symbol look esoteric. What in the heck is it doing on the back of the one dollar bill? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:United_States_one_dollar_bill,_reverse.jpg

Yes, in previous threads I've speculated that at the very highest levels, the Illuminati are controlled by a non human intelligence, but there is no way for me to confirm it. All the evidence shows that THEY BELIEVE in a higher power.

I believe in UFOs, but I think this phenomenon is a different issue. By the way lorien, I believe that just found water on either mars or one of its moons, kinda sets the potential for life to exist in other places..........but I digress, that it off the subject of this thread.

 

Nope.

They are humans mate.

Do some reading, look at the Rothschilds, the Rockerfellas, the Queen of England, Rupert Murdoch, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Henry Kissenger to name a few.

These are all unbelivably wealthy people and all members of the Illuminati.

They have so much money it doesn't do anything for them, what they really crave is power.

And thanks to us all being dumbasses by being fooled by them their agenda is on course. This will of course take time but they plan everything out years and years in advance. The more you read about them the easier it is to predict what they are going to do next.

People like your hero Dubya Bush are fairly low down the order, as are complete fools like Tony Blair, these are the puppets in the public eye, doing all the donkey work and keeping the agenda rolling.

 

The pyramid has 13 steps, representing the 13 colonies. It reads Annuit coeptis (or something like that) which means god has favored our undertakings (the formation of the country). The eye presents this as well.

It also says "novus ordo seclorum" which means (pardon my latin, it's been a while) a new order for the ages, which is most likely a statement about the new nation and how important they thought its formation was. not having a king, having a democracy instead. all that stuff.

I'm not sure of your concern though. Do dollars beam our thoughts to aliens or something? Do you think we'll offend our alien overlords if it were changed?

 

So, AGS, your belief that the illuminati controls the world simply extends to humans on this planet. They are not, in fact, aliens or controlled by aliens then. Tesla has doubts about this. How you do all rectify this difference in opinion? Tesla doesn't believe Clinton is ordained to be president and believes the Illuminati are (possibly) aliens. You believe that clinton is ordained and that the Illuminati are not aliens. Are there like different sects of illuminati? Can I start a chapter in my backyard, and if so, do I instantly grant power over all humanity or does it take a while for my abilities to control the world kick in?

 

The new order is the New World Order. FDR starting printing the symbol in the 1930s. I can't confirm that the Illuminati is controlled by Aliens, Demons, or anything like that.

But they do believe in this stuff. They do believe they get power from their rituals. They have lots of money yes, but they have their own beliefs.

I never said the Illuminati are or are controlled by Aliens. Yes, I've raised the question before, but I can't confirm this. They do have extreme amounts of money and influence, enough to control elections.

The extraterrestrial issue is something different. That is a different subject.. There is no doubt that these people are incredibly smart. The concepts and ideas they come up with are too profound to fully explore in this thread.

 

No point making light of it mate, it's happening right now.

There is a small group of people at the top who truly know what is happening, everyone else underneath towards the top of this pyramid (not to be confused with my fantastic PR4 soon to be PR 5 pyradmid site ) is just oblivious to what is going on above them.

David Icke explains it all perfectly in his presentations, Gooogle him or get a torrent download on the go, well worth listening to as he explains it far better than me.

I might be able to rustle up a link for you on Google Video, I did have one on www.timetowakeup.net before I sold it but not sure if he explained the pyramid on it.

Just because it's you I'll have a rummage around and see what I can find babe.

 

Novus Ordo Seclorum, does not mean "new world order" My latin teacher would have killed you if you said that. Novus Ordo Means "new order" in latin. World in latin probably would have been Terra (I dont think world as a word existed in latin). Terrae would have been the proper form of this (new order of the world). Seclorum is a plural possessive in latin. New order of the ages. It signifiies that they are dumping kings/queens and forming a real government of the people.

Your lack of research into these phrases and their history does not equate to alien conspiracy.

The eye was a common symbol during the renaissance signifying god and enlightenment. The pyramid was designed by some other goofball. There is no conspiracy here.

Yeah. I find it hard to believe a guy who believes we are ruled by reptilian humanoids from Draco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_icke#Reptilian_humanoids

Kinda hits his credibility, doesnt it?

In fact, if you believe in Ickes, you have to believe in Illuminati/Space aliens, because:

So are you sure you don't believe that the Illuminati are space aliens, or, at least controlled by space aliens?

 

Dude, I don't agree with everything that people say, unlike the massed sheeple that believe everything FOX News tells them.

Icke explains the Illuminati pyramid very well, I will dig it out for you and hopefully you'll take a look.

Would it help if I got Bill O'Reilly to send you an email saying it is OK to watch it?

 

I'm scared Ickes will turn into a reptilian and eat my face

Are you sure your strange fascination with O'Reilly isn't some sort of lizard love brewing, AGS?

 

No sir, my fascination with O'Reilly is that I can sense the fear in him, the fear that the lie he has been stoutly trying to protect since September 11th 2001 might be on the verge of being discovered.

That's why I'm interested in him.

 

Guys, I think you are hijacking this thread, he just asked an opinion about one or both, not a debate between two or three posters. I think you have enough post!!

 

Are you sure it isn't his sexy, lizard like appearance that has you attracted to him. Maybe you're a lizard person too, and just don't realize it.

 

I believe everyone gave their opinion on those two. I cannot help it if AGS and Tesla believe that lizard aliens control the planet.