Well, since you have decided that I am a liar and a falsificator, there is nothing I could answer that would in any way answer your questions in a way that would make any difference to your viewpoint, so I won't bother expending the effort of trying. Oh and I am not a meta, either.
Make up your mind. You can't have it both ways. Either the DMOZ editors are a bunch of capitalist thieves or they are a bunch of commies but they can't be both, can they? I've been a frequent critic of DMOZ myself but this thread is getting a little too silly...
He didn't really mean to post that, that he accidently hit the enter key several times. Too bad, DMOZ will now ban him.
Wow ... falsificator huh? Ah, the beauty of the Internet and its ill-affect on lexiconography. Yes, Minstrel, I concur; silly is one word for where this has gone. A good debate is worthwhile regardless of your stance as long as one is objective and professional enough to appreciate the discussion and points, even when contradictory; but as too oft happens, it begins to get silly ... childish is the word I was thinking of though.
Directories are directories, there are a few hundred out there, dmoz is the biggest hence the bashing. It's nothing new dmoz has been getting bashed for years. It's nice to get bashed..that means ya made it. I hope each and everyone of ya get the bashing ya deserve.
This is how I believe I got thrown out of DMOZ as well. I made some remarks with regard to multiple listings from the same site, and the next time I tried to login, I was not able to do it. The best explanation of why I would have been removed is "Uncivil and intentionally disruptive behavor". Someone claimed that I was removed previous to my disparaging remarks, but I don't believe it. I did a great job with my categories, and even now, the categories are the same as I left them. None of my categories were big ones. It seems aparent that disparaging remarks in public forums like this will get you removed from DMOZ. People who know me would never question my integrity. If anything, I am honest to the point having a big mouth. If there is a problem, I get it out in the open, and if I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit a mistake when sufficient evidence is presented. I started the PHP Link Directory in hopes that human editors would create their own directories. Right now, DMOZ still has more entries, but the age of the small directory is coming quickly. Soon, I believe there will be more listing in small directories (combined) than DMOZ. Slowly DMOZ will become more and more irrelevant.
dvduval - your case was beaten to death in thread http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=20316 Your account differs from the facts, as can be seen by any ODP editor. You dispute that. OK, fair enough. Now, is there anything more you want to add, or was this just a "me too" post? Whenever I have heard of an editor claiming to being kicked out for reasons like this I dig around (cos I am nosey). Believe me, if I found any sort of wrong-doing, I would be shouting it, first internally and then, if nothing got corrected, externally. Ah, but I'm one of the corrupt ones.. right! So, you can't prove your side of things, and we aren't allowed to post internal logs which prove the other side. Stalemate. We can go on whining about it, or move on to more constructive uses of our time.
We know what DMOZ really is. There is really no point in arguing it. Ive submitted many sites over the last 2 years and only one got in. Perhaps I am just a victim of the way the system works. For some reason I just submitted another. Might as well just right that one off as well.
Well, thanks to whatever coward did it for that anonymous red rep: "We see through the BS that you spray. We know what you are up to and we all know the truth. Idiot." Classy, that.
I came to this forum to try to see if we could all engage in a mature discussion about the issues and frustrations that you face with the ODP - to help you understand why you don't get the answers you want. I was pleased to see that some responded, and have been very pleased with the fact that some of you could talk like adults. But this? If it's just a childish whinging mud-slinging opportunity that you are looking for, I will let you indulge yourselves with some other target.
Ya know a lot more sites would get listed if 95 percent of the submitted site weren't mirrors, spam or sites that are already listed elsewhere in a good category. I blame most of the slow down and sites not getting listed on bad SEO'S practices and the folks who just don't have a clue. Bad Editors...yes there are some and will always be some...remember their human and it's human nature for some to be corrupt. Get over it and move on. There is no reason to suspect Alucard as one either.
You make that sound simple, yet it is very easy to find out the your COMPETITORS may be cheating and getting away with it. Im sure that is the ODP attitude in these cases. "Get over it and move on". Must be nice to be able to take that stance.
Yes it is nice...very easy to take that stance if your not corrupt and a lot of us are not a whole lot of us. Not quite sure what your trying to say. I know all my competitors and there all listed either above or below my site in the same category. Some of us even list our competition on our own sites. There is no such animal the ODP attitude it's a bunch of attitudes some good some bad some sane and some ya can't even understand.
I never said all, just a percentage. Everyone knows that. I usually avoid these threads but I get frustrated when I see people come along and try to pretend there isnt a problem. There is a problem. You disagree and for what reasons I do not care. We all have the freedom of opinion and I have shared mine.
your correct...there are all kinds of problem, some editors, submitters and seo's. But it seems like most would rather go on a witch hunt when things don't go their way. Start a thread about corrupt SEO's...let's bash them for a while. I mean even the title of this thread indicates someone is on a witch hunt, I mean if The biggest fraud on the Internet is dmoz...life is good.
My problem with ODP is it is edited by humans but used by computers. It would be great if its impact on any and all effects of site ranking disappeared. It clear does not earn the prominence it has. I mentioned this in another thread, but you would be hard pressed to find the average internet user to have any idea what the DMOZ is. The only one it seems to matter to is the Google computer.
I have never had any luck with any of the sites I have submitted, my guess was that they have competitors editing the lists, I rarely see any changes in the number of sites in the lists I have tried getting in to... And it has gotten worse after they stopped their status service Kim
IS it usual, you submit your site over and over to DMOZ and you dont get them listed in. Well I am not supproting the idea that DMOZ is a bunch of some corrupt or useless editors. But you cant deny that there are some afterall both kind of people exist everywhere. so there should be some bad one in DMOZ too. (ofcource there wud be some gud one) What i hate most about DMOZ that if you submited your site to any category. and DMOZ disapprove it they dont care to give you any idea why your site dint get listed. and I think minstrel's idea of "Making anything more transparent." is that Dmoz should reply with a mail that why a submission is denied. and it would really help matters not just make them worse. Afterall what is DMOZ's goal to list its editors sites? or to list only big sites? or to make internet a better place? if you find any site not suitable for listing you shud at least inform the submitter that what is wrong with the site. so that he can improve his/her site and resubmit it. and dont say that editors are too busy that they cudnt do it. or it will get them extra load. DMOZ is working on a completely NON-TRANSPARENT way. which is not good. frankly i have submitted my site to DMOZ i dont even remember how many times over last two years. In starting I thought of DMOZ as a big gun, later on i realized that it is nuthing but a flop show. and realy I dont care whether i get my site listed in DMOZ ever. but I'll keep submiting my site to it you'll ask why? Coz i take it as a war I just want to see how long DMOZ can turn a blind eye to a good quality site. neway I feel the day Google launches it own directory or stop pulling results from DMOZ those very few newbie Webmasters who think of DMOZ like Somthing important will stop considering same. so better you guyz at DMOZ change the way your doing before it is too late.