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Discussion in 'Domains' started by ironheadz, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. ironheadz

    ironheadz Peon

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    #41
    Godaddy told me a nice goodbye after 15+ emails , if i have a bill issue , they will help me with 100 emails per day , again we paid for nothing , if godaddy the 1st reg company on the net isn't safe and paypal the most popular payment isn't safe, what should we do in the domain idustry ?
    Best of luck to all , i lost the names and nothing would help
     
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  2. ronak

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    #42
    If ur really on revenge against buyer, godaddy and paypal then file sue against them which will cost u $1k....if ur really win case it can repay u upto $10k
    or if u lose even ur $1k is lost.....contact icann for more details, they will let you know the process.
     
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  3. RLKuhn101

    RLKuhn101 Peon

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    #43
    The same scammer got my domain UTEENS.com.
    I am now out of $600.00


    I emailed GoDaddy and here is my response to their email:

    Dear GoDaddy.com

    In reference to my recent support request :


    >>It appears that you have a 3rd party agreement between yourself and the buyer. We are not able to become involved in this dispute.<<

    I assume by 3rd party you mean PayPal? The domain was purchased frauduently with an account that was not the perpetrator's to use.

    The domain name was transferred from my GoDaddy account into the perpetrator's account at GoDaddy. The charge card payment at PayPal was reversed due to the fraudulent use of a PayPal account, thus leaving me out of $600.

    The perpetrator now has the domain name he defrauded me of, with GoDaddy protecting him by not acting with rapid response to lock the domain.

    By not locking the domain, the perpetrator can resell it or transfer the domain before it is possible to go through legal channels.


    >>Any further disputes over the ownership or wording of the domain name will need to be sent either to the registrant, through an arbitration forum such as World Intellectual Property Organization (http://www.wipo.int), or the court system. Please be assured that if we receive notice of a pending legal dispute we will lock the name so that it cannot be transferred or otherwise modified. Likewise when we receive a Decision we will update the name accordingly.<<

    Yes, I will do that, but by the time it takes to make that happen, the perpetrator will have removed the domain from your system and/or sold it to an unsuspecting party, further complicating matters.

    I know this isn't the first time this has happened to GoDaddy customers, so you are aware that this happens.

    Your rapid response in situations like this are crucial.

    It is evident that there is gross lack of Customer Support when a valued customer reports that a GoDaddy registered domain name has been acquired from them fraudulently.

    Good customer Service would be for GoDaddy to lock the domain in question until it can be investigated.

    By refusing to do so, GoDaddy.com as a company, is enabling and perpetuating this abuse of their valued customers by scammers, con artists and thieves.

    I transferred all my domains from RegisterFly to GoDaddy after the horrible conditions that existed at said company.

    I have been extremely happy with the GoDaddy service until now...now that I have seen the lack of support that GoDaddy demonstrates for the valued customers that are it's "Bread + Butter", GoDaddy's core business.

    This is not good business practice.

    GoDaddy's lack of support for their good customers is viewed by many, many other good customers, that have been, or are in the same position as I, is that GoDaddy as a company is enabling scammers, con artists and thieves to get away with their con's.

    Why should scammers, con artists and thieves stop perpetrating fraud if GoDaddy doesn't hold them accountable and penalizes good customers?

    GoDaddy's refusal to lock a domain so it can't be transferred and resold to another unsuspecting party, especially when a complaint has been registered, is a gross lack of Customer Support and will cause good customers to go elsewhere.

    Good customers will go to other registrars that have better Customer Support. Good customers will go to registrars that take security and Customer Support seriously, registrars that make it difficult for their valued customers to be defrauded by other customers that do not have good intentions.


    "True Customer Support."


    This type of fraud has been happening on a wide scale recently, and it is only going to grow larger each day as long as registrars allow it to continue.

    GoDaddy's lack of Customer Support is seen as a "GREEN" light to scammers, con artists and theives, since they know GoDaddy won't lock the domain they just defrauded from someone.

    Because of the non-rapid response by GoDaddy customer support in fraud cases such as this, GoDaddy will see this type of fraud grow exponentially. Turning a blind eye to it won't make it go away.

    When companies don't do all they can to Support their Customers to the best of their ability, they are in fact failing their valued customers.

    Fail your customers and your business will diminish, they'll simply go elswhere.

    I know I am a small fish in the scheme of things, and currently have 200+ domains registered with GoDaddy.

    I most likely will move my portfolio to a registrar that has better Customer Support due to this lack of Support.

    I had to do the same when Registerfly and its support system failed their customers.

    Does GoDaddy prefer to maintain a good customer base with valued customers, or be left only with scammers, con artists and thieves?

    As a company I think that GoDaddy needs to take a serious stance on these problems, and re-examine their support policy on reported domain fraud on GoDaddy registered domains.

    It is only good business.

    I hate to see GoDaddy take a down hill slide to the same conditions that existed at RegisterFly when I made the decision to leave them, because I think GoDaddy has the potential to be the best.

    It saddens me to see this happen.

    Please show us... your valued customers, that you do care, and that you do want to retain our business.


    Respectfully,

    Robert L. Kuhn
     
    RLKuhn101, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  4. ronak

    ronak Peon

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    #44
    guys i have one idea which i think will probably work, i had read it on some forums.

    So if u dealing for large amount, then this best that can help u out:

    1. create two accounts with paypal, one verified and 2nd unverified(ie no cc included).(paypal allow only one personal and one business account but u can make n no of unverified personal accounts under cover)
    2. so when u sell ur domain get all ur payments to ur unverified paypal account and transfer this amount to ur verified paypal account.
    3. process successful then only transfer domain to buyer.
    4. so in this case even if therr is fraud or therr is reverse of payment, this will effect ur unverified paypal account where you have $0 and no credit card included.

    i think this will probably work haven't tried.......ne comments on this please

    Thanks
     
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  5. ARonald

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    #45
    But do you really think genuine sellers need to have 2 accounts to ensure safety. What if paypal limits both accounts and one of them goes into negative balance.

    The real problem here is getting domains back, which I'm afraid is pretty difficult to recover @ this stage. Since eveyone got cheated @ the same time and this thing was planned to the core so that no one is able to warn other members.

    The only thing we can do is ensure that no one buys stolen domains from these scammers.
     
    ARonald, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  6. redwebs

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    #46
    are we able to get the domains back if they charged back ?
     
    redwebs, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  7. ironheadz

    ironheadz Peon

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    #47
    Plz all guys send a link to this thread to every org, paypal ,godaddy, icann , if you can call them plz do it , everyone do your best to stop these actions, thank you
     
    ironheadz, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  8. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #48
    Can everyone post the Godaddy required info on their stolen domains (and the domains) - I think I see a pattern. Please keep the post simple - i.e. the Godaddy required info and domain names only to make it easy to sort.

    EDIT: I hadn't seen this thread from GreenGambler asking everyone to list their stolen domains.
     
    mcfox, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  9. ttdomain

    ttdomain Peon

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    #49
    As it happed to me for the second to me now :mad: I will only use escrow
     
    ttdomain, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  10. aniani

    aniani Peon

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    #50
    stop using goddady.... its so sad when your domains are stolen.... scammers
     
    aniani, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  11. polymorphs

    polymorphs Peon

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    #51
    Here's a novel idea, if you have his contact details off whois and they are moderately accurate and he is a US citizen then there are numerous law enforcement authorities who deal with these types of things. They are even beginning to take it seriously at times.
    Something similar to this happened to me with a hosting company and the guy did in fact end up getting charged with fraud. The key was the minute the authorities got involved all of a sudden the credit card company, paypal and godaddy started to become far more interested in helping.
    Just a suggestion
     
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  12. ironheadz

    ironheadz Peon

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    #52
    Godaddy said after i told them how bad they treat and ignore the prb, "we consider this matter end" and i didn't recieve any email again , thats the real facts
     
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  13. RLKuhn101

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    #53
    Here is the latest email I got from GD about this matter and my response to them:


    >>
    In addition, the domain is not eligible for transfer at this time because a change of Registrant transaction was completed less than sixty (60) days prior to the transfer request. Please review the Domain Name Change of Registrant Agreement,
    http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?se=+&pageid=DOMAIN_NC <<

    A domain could be sold and resold 50+ times in those 60 days.

    GoDaddy apparently feels you have no responsibility to help other GoDaddy customers from being defrauded.

    In the end, at least one of GoDaddy's customers is going to lose out of their domain and the money they paid for it, and GoDaddy apparently doesn't care who it is as long as you collect their transfer fees.

    You call this Customer Support?

    Robert L. Kuhn
     
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  14. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #54
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  15. polymorphs

    polymorphs Peon

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    #55
    I would say to follow Mcfox's advice, that's who I was referring to as the authorities in my previous post and it sure helped.
     
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    #56
    Theres anther scammer buying LLLL

    he got me
     
    ttdomain, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  17. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #57
    Well who is it? What's their name? What are the circumstances? What domain(s)?
     
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    #58
    i'm not selling any more of my domains for a while, this is rediculous.
     
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    zellomesh Banned

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    #59
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  20. RLKuhn101

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    #60
    Hey,

    I just got an Sedo newsletter that has a link to a survey that is being taken regarding the domain industry.

    I filled out the survey and made my complaints about the "Intangible Goods" stance taken by payment processors, lack of registrar support in fraud cases etc.

    You can find the survey here: Domain Industry Survey

    Let the industry really know how you feel about whats going on.

    Thanks,

    Robert
     
    RLKuhn101, Feb 15, 2008 IP