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Suggestion Shame, shame, you know my name? Do me a major favor Shawn.

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by Laceygirl, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. #1
    This isn't an order or anything, just a request that I hope you do for me.
    SEMrush
    Ok, a guy says that I was hiding/distributing child pornography through the footer and header of a style of a forum, and you decide to private message him with something that may make me look bad?
    I have no clue how or why child porn would be on a header.......that doesn't even make sense. Add an image or video code and than hide it?............

    Anyway, Shawn, that idiot sent a mass Email to a thousand people about the BS you told him and mentioned your name in that mass email.

    I would appreciate it if you wouldn't assist people who have accused me of having a child porn ring. You don't even have any reason to do that. You don't make money from it, where is the motivation?
    Sometimes I just don't get the internet. Some guy with millions of dollars, big houses, cars, gold rings, and vacations where ever he pleases, but he decides to take a break for some cyber bullying.
    give me break Shawn. That was not necessary. Why can't you just not care about personal disputes like you are suppose to. I have 20,000 people who think I'm selling child porn and there was not even any evidence. Just something an idiot said.
    There's no way out of thinking you did the right there here. The next time you get a chance to do something good or bad to me, choose the right way.

    Child Porn......I cannot believe this.
     
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    Are you sure the guy didn't just use the name of Shawn and Shawn actually hadn't anything to do with this?

    Sucks that the guy did that though, isn't that violation of privacy in your city?
     
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  3. Laceygirl

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    No, Me and shawn know what's up. I would pm him but he would never look at it.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #4
    If someone asks about a user and I point them to something that is public as a response... {shrug}

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2032817&page=2#post15463791

    Not that it has any relevance, but you failed to notify me of people who accused you of running a child porn ring.

    As far as making money having anything to do with motivation for *anything*... rather ignorant to think it does/would be a motivating factor for anything I've ever done.
     
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  5. Laceygirl

    Laceygirl Notable Member

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    Gotcha, you hate me so if you feel like thowing a hammer then oh well {shrug}
    I assumed you read the topic yesterday as I saw you in the topic. There probably was a bunch of reports against it like crazy.
    The guy who private messaged you:
    Here is his first post in the topic: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2375451&p=17211099#post17211099
    Let me show you in case you are feeling lazy today:
    So let me get this straight: You check out the reports, he pms you, you say hey something like "oh, I don't trust her too, from "blah" topic.
    There is the possibility that you didn't know what he said, but surely you shouldn't have assisted him with such a strong accusation.
    You made a mistake. Even you should know that its not right.
    But still right now say "shrug: just helping a guy out".

    Give me a break and quit helping people out that has a negative effect on me. People who run around trying to get a bunch of people to think I sell kiddy porn don't need help.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #6
    I didn't read the topic (still have not), but it sounds to me like you brought our own personal dispute to this site, not the other way around.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #7
    I'm amused that you feel so happy to use Shawn's name but not your own.
     
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  8. Laceygirl

    Laceygirl Notable Member

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    Wow, you are driving me nuts. I'm not trying to randomly debate here. I'm just telling you that it was not nice to assist someone who has such a strong accusation against me. There is absolutely ZERO evidence with this accusation. After writing a statement demanding that evidence of this child porn claim be introduced to me, or in public I have gotten no response.
    The idiot is only saying stuff like "IF SHAWN doesn't like her, then that's some evidence!..."
    I don't want to randomly debate on how you are suppose to behave. All I want is if you ever get an opportunity to make me look bad, pass on that opportunity instead of jumping on it.
    I'm amused that you think that its about the name. Read the posts. Its about more than my name. And Shawn doesn't need you to stand up for him. He's capable of over speaking most people.
     
    Laceygirl, Jan 16, 2012 IP
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    #9
    By "making you look bad", you mean pointing to a thread you started on his forum where the most damaging info is links to a death threat you made to him in full public view on his blog? How narrow minded of him not to help you out. Are others you threaten to kill more understanding?

    As has been mentioned before, if you don't want your psychotic behavior pointed out, don't do it, especially via the internet. Pretty simple, YOU make you look bad. Lying makes you look bad. Threatening violence makes you look bad. None of those are in Shawn's or anyone else's control.

    Btw - Thanks for pointing out your newest brouhaha, Justin. Wasn't aware you'd adopted yet another name. Last night I removed your recent dup ID elsewhere. Smooth move, spamboy. If you lie about your identity it kinda makes it hard to buy whines about people lying *about* you, especially when they mention they've been threatened. If you can't learn to deal with people without threats, seek help. That is just not normal.
     
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    #10
    Oh look who it it. Rob Jones. Shawns' verbal bodyguard ready in the front line.
    Rob, everything you just said was totally incorrect. You don't know what you are talking about, you are just trying to cause trouble. Blah blah.

    Like I said to before. Shawn doesn't need an army of his personal friends to bully around in this topic. I was just talking to him.
     
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    #11
    Really?

    • -- The public death threat is documented, and you helpfully provided contact info that matches your registration on multiple forums.
    • -- The fact that threatening others online is neither smart nor normal should be a given.
    • -- The fact that the newest player in your ongoing soap opera mentions being threatened is in the link you provided yourself.
    • -- The fact that I just removed a dup ID you created is easily proven, and offers another example of duplicity and inability to color inside social lines.
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    Be sure to point out the part of my post that was incorrect. Can't seem to find anything that is even hard to verify. As for defending Shawn, that wasn't the purpose. As you again injected yourself into my world uninvited I was returning the favor, and pointing out that it's time to seek professional help.
     
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    #12
    Yes, Really!
    1. Sql Databases can be modified since the stone age. So if you want I can make a blog with your name, say that you like to slap skins with sheep, then log into my sql and edit the ip to your ip. I'm not accusing anyone of doing that about the death threat, but its proof that evidence is not the same as proof.
    2. Smart and normal. Nor is it smart and normal for some guy on the internet to run around acting like he's a bodyguard to another guy who only has the risk of an argument. Whatever

    Rob Jones, I have been saying it all day today to everyone. If you have one slightest shake of PROOF(not trivial crap) in regards to the ridiculous Child porn claim against me then you should post it publicly.
    But that's never going to happen, Robert. Because you, your friends, and the rest of the idiots who are sticking to the "its true" are all full of crap. Its all just yabber, yabber, internet talk BS that you freaks all do.

    Now kindly get a life other than running around trying to defend Shawn. Are you on a payroll or something?
    Here's an interesting fact:
    the same two people in this topic who are defending shawn also are defending shawn right in the next suggestion topic:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2376148

    How many topics are there where shawn has a bunch of friends run in and over talk someone? 100's?
     
    Laceygirl, Jan 16, 2012 IP
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    So you did send that email and threaten to cut his throat?

    I wasn't defending Shawn, I was taking the piss out of you.
     
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    Not that this is the discussion, but it was a comment in shawn's personal blog from what? 6yrs ago, or something like that.
    I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you are actually on the payroll at DP as a moderator. I thought you were just a member. I guess since you are on the payroll there is no reason for you to have an honest opinion about anything. You'll just stick with your boss.

    One problem is its not really right to have a forum like this and all get together and bombard people in it with your organzied moderation team. But then again, if you cared about rights and wrongs than you wouldn't be in line with a guy to assists another guy who likes to spread rumors about child porno.
     
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    If you look more closely you'll also see that there are times when I ask Shawn to look at something he might normally have overlooked - and he does. Such as a guy recently who was caught in the moderation queue because he'd changed his email. There is a process for reviewing those (not by the mods FWIW) but I asked Shawn to give a guy preference and he did. Now that user is brand new but the few posts he'd done looked ok so I was happy to help. I don't believe that was being an ass kisser or taking the piss. Some of us are upfront about who we are and why we are here and expect others to behave the same way.
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #16
    Your argument would have (slightly) more merit if it wasn't for the following:

    Not a single human being has (or ever had) access to the servers in question other than myself. So your argument that the database could have been tampered with because someone is trying to frame you is you saying that *I* tampered with it (which you and I both know isn't true). I only came across the comment after Googling your name when you dragged me into your "other" self-created issue.

    But for sake of argument, let's pretend I inserted a fake comment into the database attributed to you. Did I also hack into archive.org and manipulate their historical archive? Somehow it's still there from months before the other thread was even created: http://web.archive.org/web/20100914191913/http://www.shawnhogan.com/2007/04/maybe-no-less-spam.html

    Maybe you think I had some sort of premeditated agenda against you that spanned years {rolls eyes}... I went around inserting a bunch of fake posts/comments/profiles around the Internet attributed to you, because I knew a couple years down the road you would tell everyone you were a girl. {shrug} My trap was set... all I needed to do was wait... right.

    As far as IPs/logs not able to be used as evidence (or proof), you are wrong there. We get subpoenas all the time (from everyone ranging from Disney to the FBI). In fact we had to set up a specific email for it because we get so many. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/faq.php?faq=policies#faq_subpoenas

    Honestly, I'm not sure why you bring your personal issues to this site and then on top of it attempt to drag me into them (especially when it clearly didn't work out in your favor the first time). Believe it or not, I don't have the time nor the interest to have a personal vendetta against *anyone*. A good rule of thumb for ANYONE would be to not bring your own issues/disputes to this site... and if you do for whatever reason, certainly don't bother asking for our protection because of something stupid you did.
     
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    Do you really want to go through this old stuff yet again. We can go on forever, but you and your friends want always bring up old stuff to get away from the real reason I am in this topic.
    I don't believe you. I think you did that only a few days ago to me and the whole purpose is to try to get you to not do it and maybe really not have the time nor internet to tell people crap about me to give them extra fuel to cause trouble with. This is what you did.
    I am not responsible for others actions and I'm not asking for your protection. Get off of your high horse. I'm asking that if you happen to see a stone being thrown at me, do the right thing and don't throw one at me as well in the background like you did yesterday. There's no reason to act like it didn't happen. You clearly knew the guy had some huge grudge(whatever it was) and first chance you say "hey, here's some dirt you can use against her".
     
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    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #18
    More like someone asked about you and asked us to delete your threads and they went on and on about personal dispute stuff that I didn't even have the time to read. I didn't seek them out, nor did I do what they asked (to delete your threads). And rather than explain to them your history here (again, didn't have the time to explain it), I just suggested they should Google you.

    And you *do* ask for protection when you use the Report Post option to report a post that doesn't violate our rules simply because you want us to delete a post you don't personally like.

    I didn't see a "stone being thrown at you", I saw nothing more than a personal dispute between two people that has nothing to do with me, yet both sides are trying to drag me into it.
     
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    In the past you always say the same thing. You don't get involved with personal/business disputes. This is a perfect policy. This time you gave them something that could help them out about me.
    I only reported a double post which was against the rules. Well, it was actually 6 or more posts by the same person over and over. Double posting is against the rules. Of course I don't care about the double posting. If something was done then he would've switched his aggression to DP and not me(I admit that).
    You wouldn't think that if it was you. One guy tells 1000+ people in some mass email about your child porn ring, and then you see a bunch of facebook prayer meetings to help the guy get through all of this stuff YOU are doing, along with several hate mails, then I come along and say to the guy "here's shawns history: then I provide a link to a few past events involving you".

    Wouldn't you think that's considered throwing a stone?
     
    Laceygirl, Jan 16, 2012 IP
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    You are assuming of course that I know/knew anything about your dispute. I haven't seen anyone accuse you of child porn. In fact the only one I've seen bring it up is yourself. But again... I also don't care enough to try and find out either way. Nor do I know about some random Facebook group related to you.

    My involvement/knowledge is this... Some random person on the Internet asks me to remove another user's post and writes a book about why it should be done, the history of your guys dispute, etc. The truth is I didn't even read it all it was so long (because again... I don't care about a dispute between two random people on the Internet). No idea about any child porn claims or Facebook prayer group or whatever. Ultimately my response was, "Sorry, we aren't going to delete other people's posts just because you don't like it. But yeah... that user is probably a little loopy... You should Google them some time for entertainment."

    Just to be clear so there is no confusion in the future... Please stop expecting favors from me, because you won't be getting them.
     
    digitalpoint, Jan 16, 2012 IP