funkywizard is not proxy.org's "staff". Baron has made him a global moderator because he is the most helpfull member on the forum. Also, I'm a lounge moderator there and was asked by Baron to be a mod there because I am the one who suggested the section. I've known funkywizard personally for over 2 years even before we knew about proxy.org and can say that funkywizard is not getting anything out of posting here or even told what to do. He is acting on his own accord as am I. Honestly, if people decide they won't want to advertise on proxy.org , it just means more traffic for the people who actually have a clue what is going on instead of just listening to what a profit hungry corporation blaims everything on. As funkywizard has mentioned, everything can be faked, including where it came from and Google knows this but decided to protect their advertisers and ignore their publishers. edit: I just had one of my dedicated hosting clients tell me this morning that Google has "fined" them double what they earned lifetime in Adsense. Now how can you be fined more then what you earned? thewird
I am simply pointing out the obvious and trying to help people... there was no reason to play the troll card. So is proxy.org still taking ads from people and claiming that there is nothing wrong? THAT is the problem my friend... not me... not google... not some mystery one-armed man with a click bot... the problem is that proxy.org is taking good money and sending bad traffic.
But Google doesn't enclose any more details they won't ever say that you are getting huge amounts of bad traffic from proxy.org ! they just say click fraud or whatever but they don't even tell you your own domain that was involved in click fraud let alone getting third party into investigation have seen much banning cases in DP but never seen any details uncovered from Adsense part
I have pierced that veil... trust me, in the context of this thread the problem is traffic coming from proxy.org.
c'mon frogman you got a adsense number hook it up. Lots of people got banned accounts they need to talk about.
its getting more and more interesting here with every post. please keep us updated on your communication with adsense, frogman. just an interesting fact: since the very first day my sites were not listed on proxy org ecpm trippled and cpc doubled. also could anyone please check if theres an ip 63.96.196.195 in your top visitors list. i got this ip visiting 15 of my proxies regularly and doing suspicious amount of hits a day.
I would block that IP immediately, its not normal traffic of course. You can easily block IP`s in cPanel.
yes, i did it a week ago already. now i think that its legit tho, considering the ip belongs to Plano Independent School District, but better safe than sorry.
You apparently haven't heard anything anyone else has said and are not open to any other logical conclusion so go ahead and do what you want but nothing is going to come of this except more google banning and/or "fines". Good luck on your endeavour's. I'm not even gonna bother. thewird
have you ever watched the Jerry Springer Show? You know how they bring out a "couple" and then Jerry brings out the "other" woman (or man)... then all hell breaks loose and jilted lover flies all off the handle and wants to beat the crap out of the new girlfriend... did it ever occur to you how misdirected all that anger is? I mean, you have two people that have entered into a relationship and have on some level made an agreement of fidelity. One person breaks that agreement and the other wants to beat up some relatively innocent 3rd party. I have said in previous posts that if you want to blame me for loosing the dogs of war then go ahead. I take full responsibility for pointing Google toward the ongoing and still unresolved problems at proxy.org. If you want me to apologize for proxy.org's refusal to take any kind of proactive stance then you are using "Springer Thinking". The question that seems unanswerable from ANYONE in the proxy.org camp is: Is proxy.org still selling ads to people that expect to received REAL traffic?
If proxy.org didn't give real traffic, I wouldn't be where I was today. If I owned proxy.org, I wouldn't give you anything either. He owe's you nothing. I'm just going to leave it at that. As for everyone else here, I hope you form your own opinion on the matter and remember Adsense isn't the only advertiser out there. Google has never liked proxies and probably never will yet its the most used. And no, don't ask me for suggestions. Do your own research. thewird
You amaze me. If the authority in any other industry told you that 90+% of something was invalid would you believe them? I trust that Google is telling the truth about proxy.org. Why would they lie? Why would they send out warning letters if it were not true? Why would they be "fining" publishers if it were not true? Here is my take on your and fuzzywizard... you guys are going to argue any and everything in the face of a mountain of info no matter what is said or done. I would also bet the soles of my shoes that both of your Adsense accounts were terminated long ago and that is why you are so anti-Google. You guys have done a piss poor job of redirecting the focus form the main point and that is that proxy.org is aware of a fake traffic issue and they continue to profit from it at the expense of people that have not read this board. But you seem to be OK with that and THAT speaks volumes about your character. I am done tilting windmills with you. I am sure that the vast majority of those that read this thread understand who and where the rats are and those that got the warning from Google certainly know that I am telling the truth.
Same goes to you. You continually ignore the fact that anyone can pretend to be sent from somewhere else. Google can think what they want. I can go on a clicking on spree with bots and pretend to have come from google.com. What would google do then? "Be carefull where you are indexed including our own search engine". The fact of the matter is that proxy.org is not responsible for this fake traffic and therefore shouldn't affect his ad sales in any way. Baron has already taken steps to protect against automated bots from abusing his service but anyone could manually download the source of his website and parse it to get the full list of proxies. A captcha wouldn't help in the least either because those are easily breakable even with bots (remember all the forum spam). You have said funkywizard and I will only argue with everything you say but it seems you find an argument for anything you say and it just seems to be a loop. Also, most people are more confused then they are understanding. I've had a bunch of people I've never talked to contact me asking for clarification on many things. thewird
Looks like adsense banning season is on. lets do some small survey to get some conclusions. have a look: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=301802
That is an offensive and inaccurate remark. I was sent here by you. You posted on proxy.org about this thread, and I came here to investigate the claims. You have shown yourself to be an emotionally unbalanced and unreasonable person, which, despite any other useful information you may have, requires me to take your opinions with a grain of salt. Again, I find this level of criticism offensive and uninformed. To imply that I am "a part" of proxy.org simply because I am a moderator there, and to imply that I have any control over the daily operations of the website, is absurd. For the record, I am a global moderator because I have been involved with the forum since it opened, helping other proxy operators with the various issues they have come accross while running their proxies. As I gained credibility on the forum by being consistantly helpful and available to the users there, Baron thought it would be in his best interests to encourage me to continue to stick around and be helpful by giving me moderator priveleges. But that is as far as it goes. Just because I can delete threads or posts on proxy.org, does not mean I have any other control over the website. And just because Baron trusts me enough to talk with me about the details of your harassment of him, whereas he has deleted that harassment from the public portions of his forum, does not mean I have a vested interest in having things work out positively for Baron. To the contrary, if people don't believe in proxy.org and stop listing their sites there, I stand to gain substantially from that. But I don't operate my business in a dirty fashion. I enjoy the resource Baron has worked hard to provide, and I plan on getting more traffic to my proxies by continuing to improve their operation, not by actively destroying my competitors.