Links without anchor text

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  1. Wealdie

    Wealdie Guest

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    #21
    Natural linking patterns will have a variety of anchors, url only and some "click here" as well as some image links (alt text in the link is good)

    Too much of any one thing does not look (and is not) natural
     
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    #22
    Link without anchor text is not as good as the one with anchor text. Without anchor text, search engines can't pass link juice appropriately to your keywords. Search engines would depend completely on the content of referral web page for that. Search engine passes the juice to the keywords found in the anchor text.
     
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  3. grandaddy

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    #23
    You stand uncorrected ;)
     
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    #24
    Hi,

    A link is a link and there is value to it as far as SEs are concerned. The difference is:

    1. Link without anchor text - It will only be regarded as a link to your site and hence contribute to the total back links for that particular web page
    2. Link with anchor text - It will also be regarded as a link to your site and contribute to the total back links for that particular web page AND

      it will contribute to a stronger keyword signal for that web page meaning you improve on your SERP for that particular keyword on that particular web page

    Regards
     
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  5. igme

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    #25
    Well said frederrick I agree with that.
     
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  6. bomberman

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    #26
    Maybe, but if we consider also the speed of downloading a page, the advisable link to use is the text link. Image link will consume some bytes and it's the reason why some sites are very slow in downloading the page.
     
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    #27
    As its a hight PR site.. i think it will benefit ur site in some way or the other.....
     
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    #28
    Anchor text is crucial to ensuring the proper theming of your website. Granted not all links are going to have properly themed text in them but the more links with it the better.
     
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    #29
    its still a good link....it could have been better but that link is better than none
     
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  10. MattUK

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    #30
    It's still good, a link is a link.

    Of course links will anchor text help, it's wrong to assume image links don't carry an anchor text weight - they can do though the image title/alt text, so they can be just as good as having anchor text.

    Links without anchor text will still help, Google will look at the general theme of the linking site/page and the text surrounding the link can be taken into account to help determine the semantics.

    Also on a very basic level a link will help to pass some of the authority/trust of the linking domain.
     
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  11. gards67

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    #31
    I have an instance where anchor text doesn't help, I have a site and I have thousands of anchor text links and rank nowhere at all for that anchor text till I realized I need to have the anchor text in the body of my site somewhere.
     
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    #32
    Anchor text = Alt of image
    Anyway, the link from any quality website will help your site, even if without anchor text
     
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  13. Laef

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    #33
    This kind of links will improve your PR but not your SEs ranking which require linking by using your keywords I mean anchore text. As you probably know a good PR dosn't mean a good placement because here it's all about relevance of keywords and not about the weight of your website mesured by PR.
     
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  14. Wealdie

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    #34
    If your links are not varied in anchor they might do you more harm than good - especially if they mostly have the exact same anchor - see my earlier post ^^
     
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    #35
    if you use anchor in link, you will get same results as without anchor but - you will additionaly get better SERP for keyword you use in anchor.
     
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    #36
    Anchor text really helps if used properly.... it has great effect on rankings....
     
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    #37
    Hello,

    yes, i would like to say Finally, you can get a report from Google of the top anchor text phrases used when people link to your site.

    also Google has just announced the New Feature.

    "Get a more complete picture about how other sites link to you"

    But didn't Google already report anchor text data? Yes, but only keywords, not phrases. Keywords are mostly useless junk food data. Phrases are datalicious, tasty and helpful.


    Thanks
    JAY
     
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  18. Gazzerman

    Gazzerman Active Member

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    #38
    This is what I am interested in exploring MattUK!

    I think we all know the value of Links with Anchor text, getting back to the question, lets take this as an example.

    What would happen if we had a site that had 10 Image backlinks from PR7+ domains and no text backlinks of anykind. Would google see good authority/trust sites pointing to you and then rank you in high places for your onpage optimization?

    I see many sites such as "automotive.com" ranking very well for many automotive keywords but its all from internal linking and not from external. My theory is that once you receive a certain level of authority its not essential to have backlinks to rank well for competitive keywords and if you were to add backlinks with relevant keywords you would most certainly get a top 3 placement.

    Your thoughts please?
     
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  19. MattUK

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    #39
    You've got it about right, that's why social network marketing and linkbait are so effective, as you gain links from sites that have a high authority - and most of the time the anchor text that is used is pretty poor if you're just concentrating on certain phrases.

    What I have noticed though is that traffic and rankings increase across phrases as a whole, I guess that as the domain trust/authority increases then so so rankings across the board.
     
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  20. Gazzerman

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    #40
    Also, at the bottom of the first post by "Jason Green" he states "Using this method means you can almost always get in the top 10 with any article for at least some keyword phrases (providing your site has a decent amount of backlinks as a whole)."

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=578967

    This related to article titles but he does say "providing your site has a decent amount of backlinks as a whole"

    This suggest to me that good backlinks regardless of anchor text are the most valuable links.

    So I think this is a sensible order for link building.

    1. High profile links regardless of anchor or image
    2. Anchor text links
    3. Image links

    This process will build your site upto a good authority and you will then need less backlinks wth your anchor text to rank in high positions.

    Low authority sites may need 30 backlinks with correct anchor text, but high authority sites may only need 5 backlinks with correct anchor text.
     
    Gazzerman, Nov 30, 2007 IP