Hello - someone asked me for a link exchange today, I did it, and submitted the code. The links are in the form of: http://northernmichiganupdate.com/modules/weblinks/singlelink.php?lid=35 - this is what my link's url looks like before it redirects to my site. Initially, too, they didn't put the title I requested as hypertext (they put it in after I requested they do so again). Question - what is the specific impact, if any, of php redirects such as these and SEs? Thanks. Edited to add I don't suspect foul play - the site ranks linked sites by outgoing clicks. But I still have a concern on PHP redirects and SEs, re: 301's, etc.
Not worth of bother. Some of the usual tricks are: 1) search engine unfriendly links (eg. php redirects as above) 2) links page that is intentionally not indexed, and never will be 3) no followed links 4) temporary links, that get removed after some time, hoping that webmasters don't check regularly whether link is still in place
I have read these aren't always unfriendly, but usually are. If the redirect is set up as a permanent one, then, I've read, it's not a problem. But I am getting a general case of a big "No." Anyone else?
Links of that nature can be actually be harmful. http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm explains problems with 302 redirects, but the url you mention outputs 200 status codes. Recently, I have found several hijacks that output 200 status codes, and another member of this forum pointed out one to me that he said was a 303 redirect - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=45363 - and running the url you mention through several server header checkers (http://www.searchengineworld.com/cgi-bin/servercheck.cgi is a good one) it output 200 status codes. You should avoid dynamic links such as these because the search engines have problems handling them.
On this same site, in order to register, you are required to go inside zonealarms and disable third party cookie blocking, and disallow the "remove header option." You are also told to do a host of other things which, in my view, compromised security. I would like this link removed from their site. Any suggestions?
If you want your link removed, then contact them. A redirect link is rarely a good one, I never even bother when I see them.
Mdvaldosta - I should have said, are there means to compel someone to remove a link if you ask and they have refused?
Send them a link to this thread, and to this thread. Be courteous, explain that Xoops has problems, and mention this search: http://www.google.com/search?q=xoops+redirect+hijack. Ask them to remove your link for these reasons. Suggest they change strategies, as the complaints can be bad publicity. It seems this site is brand new, and has not had a chance to fully develop the redirect hijack problem. But once you know that the webmaster has been informed, that the redirect hijack is actually happening, and the webmaster has refused your polite requests, many hosts and access providers are receptive to a similar email and can apply pressure that you cannot. Here's one of the '200 status code' problems I have been looking at - search on Google for traby club romania. Not too hard to figure out who is getting hijacked, or finding the page the site is listed on. And try it out on BigDaddy, the test d/c's that is supposed to fix these problems...
I'll ask about this on the Xoops forum and see what they say. I thought you asked to be removed because of my news section. I'll let yas know what the cms experts have to say
No, actually, Krauh, I asked to be removed for the reasons I stated to you in my several communications. You approached me for a link exchange; I placed you on my site with a good deal of promotional, affirmative description; I sent you the code I would like inserted for my site and you did not initially honor that, though clearly you have other sites on board with keywords in their hypertext; and I indicated I do not like redirects on the face of it. Even then said I would be willing to work with you, provided you change the text to reflect what I had asked in the first place, and that I could be assured the redirects were permanent. I didn't hear from you on the latter problem, and, on further information here, and based on the above, I declined to link exchange. If you want to talk about this more, I'd suggest we discuss via pm rather than posting on this forum. I did so only to respond to your above post, but I don't believe this is the proper venue. By the way - NetMidWest - thank you for the information. Much appreciated. Paul
Here's the question on Xoops by krauh, for those interested: http://www.xoops.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=45816
I'm not trying to attack or offend anyone. My apologies If I have offended anyone I am sorry. My site is new and I have only been playin with this stuff a few years. I myself am curious about your concern and have asked the xoops community about it.The heading I used was to get a response out of them.It didn't work so I have asked again. Since I myself am not totally sure what you mean by the hijacking.Are you refering to how the link takes you to a description of your link?It does do that if you click the most recent links block at the top of the page.It's to a page on my site tho.If you go further down the page there are direct links that use whatever text people desire.I didn't fully understand why you wanted to use words that didn't give your site name but now I understand but I did change it to what you asked me too do.I didn't see or understand the need for it,Now I do.See I'm learning Yes The link was going to be permanet but I'll live and learn. As I said I'm sorry for my initial response but at that time I did feel I was being accused of actions that would intentionally harm your site rankings. I'm sorry about that too. I was in the wrong If I ever get an answer I'll post it for you,or if they ever explain the problem. I hope we can get over this I am.
No worries, Krauh - as I said in my initial post, I don't suspect you were doing any kind of foul play at all. Your site is a nice one and you have worked hard to make it so. Just leery of redirects, and as we've exchanged in PM, need hypertext language in the links. I am the last guy to purport to have any kind of authority or experience in webmastering. No need for apologies, certainly, from my perspective. I wish you and your site well. Paul