Hi. I've got a link directory www.squidlinks.com that is currently PR0 because it's very new. I'm now on the task of sorting the page ranking. I'm guessing I must now get backlinks from other sites, I've now got a links page for permanent links that I will work to build up. Is this correct? I've registered with linkmarket and I've got over 3 pages. Is linkmarket any good? About 10 of them are gambling sites - am I right in saying that you should only get backlinks from sites with similar content? What is similar content for a link directory? Free directories? I want to make sure that any squidlinks (image links) on my site are SEO friendly. Please could someone tell me if mine are and if not how I should change them. Thanks for any help.
Yes. To build up your page rank u will need many back links. I will link 7 of my sites to yours in return. PM me if interested.
I've noticed that the best way to start a site is to start with one high PR incoming link. Do this before you submit anywhere. What happens is that, to the spider, a high PR site just introduced a new site, which will help start you off with a high PR. Then submit and exchange links. Good luck
I wouldn't suggest those link trading websites though. In my experience they will just drag you down. As soon as google figures it out that your website is only on other pages with nothing but links you could end up in the infamous "google sandbox". Thank You
I hate to be the one starting an argument, but the "sandbox" is a myth! However, I would agree with your suggestion about staying away from trading websites. Try and trade links with similar websites .... in your case, other directories I guess. A lot of people believe that gambling outbound links can also create problems. I am yet to see evidence of this BUT I still refrain from linking to these sites. My directory gets at least one paid listing request ($10 each) from a gambling site. They are all declined, although it means that I lose around $500 a months in revenue. Anyway, getting back to the point. Exchange links and also submit your site to other directories to get one way links to your site.
Thanks for the feedback so far guys. A lot of directories offer free site submission if I place a reciprocal link to their site on my links page. I'm currently coding some XML stuff to make life easier which will automate my links page - should be live tonight so I can start trading links with ease. Thanks HideIp for the offer - I'll PM you soon although it seems I should only have links from sites with related content? Most link directories it seems get quite a few backlinks from the listed sites so surely it does not matter which sites link to me - I'll avoid gambling sites though!?
These pages are set up to have nearly 100 outbound links each on them, after a while they will become useless for other webmasters to link with due to the smaller value placed on the large number of links; I'd suggest you cut that number down.
Every site initial starts with a potential PR. Based around a number of factors inc the number of pages in a site and the way in which you link those pages together once you have set the site up the only way in which you can increase your maximum PR is to add more pages. The best way to achieve this potential PR is to generate one way inbound links for more information about achieving PR please contact me on 0161 928 6999 Chris Mclaughlin
I have a way of generating 1000 one way backlinks 400 of which would come from websites with a PR of more than 4..... All links will come from individual pages where the only website the page links to is you. On top of this the page would contain relevant content and information about your site. If this sounds of interest or if you dare TRY and pick holes in my solution please call me on 0161 928 6999 Chris McLaughlin.
I found it is best to get related links to your site. i have alot of links but the only links that get me good traffic are the ones i worked hard to get. thank-you and later.
wrmineo thanks for this snippet of info. www.squidlinks.com is aimed at being a fun place for people to visit to discover links and not a link directory. However what would be an optimal number of outbound links per page, thanks?
I would recommend the max outbound links to be under 100 also. But I think it is just a possibility that Google will penalize such pages. They don't do that all the time. This doesn't mean 100 links on a page is ok. I have seen those web sites that got lots of links on their pages but not penalized. Even dmoz directory pages got over 100 links, so IMO this is just a suggestion by Google. In fact I am currently testing this. I put almost 200 links on it so far, planning to place about 300 total.
Thanks guys - I'll reduce the amout of outgoing links. I'm currently thinking about AdSense too (been accepted) and I believe participating in link exchange programs to increase PR is against the TOS. I'm awaiting some feedback from another AdSense posting before I start getting backlinks etc because I want to do the right thing and appreciate Google allowing me to use their service. Must read more DP threads but my eyes are very sore lol!
It's mainly a theory, and has been true for all my sites ..... I believe the only reason webmasters see (or saw) the "sandbox" effect was mainly due to how Google goes through it's updates. Most webmasters saw between 6 - 8 months between setting up a new site and starting to see SERP results. Then, webmasters miraculously surface out of the sandbox and start seeing traffic from Google. Most webmasters claim to be out of the sanbox during an update. Based on all this and Google's quarterly updates .... this is what I believe happens: Google updates (internal) PR every 3 months or so Until recently (or even now), internal PR was quite important for SERPs Google creates a backup of the cache to calculate PR, as much as 4 weeks before the update. So, the day PR updates only pages cached 4 weeks before that date are pageranked. Google might take a couple of weeks (or more) to know your site exists Google might take 4 - 6 weeks (or more) to completely cache your site once it knows you exist Just getting backlinks is not enough. Google must spider all these pages where your links are, to be able to provide PR benefit to your site. So, it can take: up to 3 months for your site to be cached Then, another month for PR updates to be calculated PR is applied at the end of 4 months So, best case scenario - You start seeing results in 4 months If you miss this PR, then it's another 3 - 4 months wait. Hence, the 7 - 8 month wait. So, imo what webmasters call a "Sandbox" effect is nothing but Google following it's spidering and PR cycles. How to make the process faster? 1. Get heaps of BLs 2. High PR links will help get your site cached faster 3. Submit a Google sitemap (Although I am yet to see evidence of this helping, but do it anyway) 4. Update your website regularly. Once Google does cache your site, it will continue coming back for more if it sees fresh content each time. 5. Have patience. Give Google time but continue developing your site and building links!
Google don't penalise sites for having lots of links. They just don't pass much PR to the target pages and your internal navidation sucks. It won't harm your site by doing so, you just don't do it any favours.
I see what your saying dfsweb, but I think your getting mistaken between toolbar PR and real PR. Real PR is constantly updated. Any site that has been cached and has internal links has some value of PR. Google just doesn't show this to us until much later. PR updates are pretty (or completely) inconsequential to the SERPS, I've never seen a site take a big jump around an update. The rankings have already been taken into account weeks or months before, Google is just showing us what is already in effect. Google results are in 'everflx' - constantly changing and new links and PR increases/decreases are taken into account in real time.
I've updated the site - it now has a maximum of 64 outbound links per page (at least it will have eventually ). I've registered with a couple of high traffic free directories. Should I consider paying and if so where do you think would be appropriate for my site www.squidlinks.com? Thanks.