How to find corrupt DMOZ editors?

Shall we perform an alien autopsy

 

Hardly. He's not the most corrupt editor by a long shot, not by his admission or by any other criteria.

 

Hmmm. We should put it to a vote. Would all the corrupt DMOZ editors mind starting a thread where we can vote on your corruptness (is that even a word? ).

 

I guess telling other how he scams the system does not count? See his thread: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=14080 .

Should we post a few more?

 

Some of the truly corrupt editors are still senior editors and admins - the truly corrupt are those that either refuse to acknowledge the harm that certain DMOZ practices cause or encourage or see it and choose to do nothing about it. That to me is a far greater wrong that taking a bribe or two.

 

How do you figure that telling people that they do not need to be black mailed by DMOZ editors is considered corruption?

 

Don't be silly Minstrel I've never said that they absolutely do not and have never existed.
I'm simply saying that ( like UFO's, just call me Scully), corrupt editors are something I've heard you and others speak loudly and very forcibly about. I've never came across one myself though. I know YOU'RE convinced. That's ok with me.

But you've yet to convince quite a few of us of the exisitence of a 'Dmoz race' of 'Corrupt Editors'.

I'm just a plain old skeptic that wants to see a bit of proof before leaping in there with my Phasers on 'stun', and before I can say 'Captain Kirk, whoops I mean Minstrel, you were so right , the 'Dmoz corrupt editors' were trying to invade the ODP, so glad we stopped them in the nick of time. My hero !!!' (and fade to whooo oooo music) ..

Basics ! You'll have to do better than that and it's not MY job as a skeptic to provide proof of existence, it's YOURS as a believer who wants us all to know you're right on this issue.

So where are they ?

 

Do your own homework, shygirl. If you really believe it's all just urban mythology, I have no interest in taking on the obviously futile task of educating you. And if you don't, then what the hell was the point of your post in the first place?

Sure, why not. How about:

http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/02/14/aol-owned-dmoz-directory-promotes-child-pornography/

http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/04/15/dmoz-still-listing-pro-pedophilia-sites/

http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/05/02/dmoz-and-web-sites-promoting-anorexia-and-self-injury/

http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/05/30/dmoz-still-promoting-pro-anorexia-pro-self-injury-sites/

Then go look at the way orlady, lmocr, and others have defended the actions of DMOZ in these issues on various thread here at DP and in internal DMOZ threads.

That is real corruption.

 

The above statement is indicative of everything that is wrong with DMOZ. It's up to Minstrel and others to convince you there are many (very many) corrupt editors at DMOZ? Why? We are not in the club. What do we care if DMOZ collapses and dies? You should be the one that cares.

You haven't look very hard. Trust me. Do you spend much time talking to people that are heavy into SEO? If not ask around, in places that you are not known to be an editor. You might be surprised at what you find. The guy that posted in a thread earlier that he wanted to pay someone $1,000 for a listing, do you think he didn't immediately get some PMs, emails, phone calls, pidgeons with note attached to the leg, etc...?

 

There are quite a few editors who join for the wrong reasons and the majority of these get found out and removed.

But I cannot recall a documented case of an editor adding a site for cash payment. I am aware of may bribe attempts, perhaps one or two solicitations but no case of where the owner of site A paid editor B $C to add site A.

I still believe (along with most ODP editors) that that idea that there are a group of editors adding sites for monetary gain is a myth. I have seen no creditable evidence to the contrary.

 

So telling them how to get listed by using your method is above board? How is this keeping from being black mailed? How are the DMOZ editors black mailing anyone? Last time I knew, black mailing was illegal.

So, let's see, let me look at your thread - I buy a site that is listed in the ODP already, I play games with page layout to try to trick the ODP editors.

. What kind of garbage are you telling these people to do? As soon as we check the links on the page we will see that it is redirected. This is a great way to get their site permanently banned.

And you claim that this is not a corrupt action?

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Believe what you want. Seems pointless to try to open your eyes on this matter. You have drank way too much of the DMOZ koolaid.

 

Cut the crap Minstrel.

You want us all to believe corruption is rife. Yet whenever asked to provide a little proof or simple clarification on something. Resort to insult and avoidance.

If you personally believe in corruption as the norm ( as in like every post you make here ). Then FFS back your assumptions up and stop avoiding direct questions at the very least Gworld at least attempts to back his stuff up.

Until you've got something Dmoz relevant to say and not just 'hey why don't I just insult the poster in front of me' then you're more to be pitied than laughed at.
The UFO/Star Trek stuff was just a fun way of getting my point across, and certainly a bit more original than your never ending and boringly predictable 'what the hell was the point of your post in the first place?' type responses.

If you have yourself got proof even a hint of corruption then lay it on the table.

If not, then bugger off and contribute somewhere where you actually have something constructive to say. Constant insults (newsflash), only get people's back's up and detract from the issues discussed. You've proved beyond doubt you're pretty good at them, but it's time to let those who want to actually talk and debate about things in an adult manner now get on with it ok ?

Oh and yes MORALLY what you've highlighted are of course worth discussion. But corruption ? Just how does an editor make money out of anorexia or self-injury sites.
I re-iterate, morally, worth discussion. Corrupt editors making loads of money out of them ?, highly unlikely.

 

And I thought I was paranoid? Corrupt ODP editors are taking over the planet!! Quick, get me some tin foil!!!
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LOL, how long something being illegal has stopped DMOZ editors? Read the internal forum where a Meta instructs the editors to ignore American federal law.

That thread was a response to what was happening on that time when a DMOZ editor were telling people that if they don't stop criticizing DMOZ, they will never get listed. Also you might like to look at the WPW, on how a person who started with posting that DMOZ is shit, became an editor in DMOZ and then as an moderator in WPW started to delete and lock any thread that was discussing DMOZ in not a positive light.

 

I have read all the forums and can not recall ever seeing that one. Want to provide me a link to it? I would be very interested to see that a meta would ever instruct another editor to violate US Federal laws.

 

shygirl and gboisseau, I have no doubt that you, DMOZ, and your parents must be incredibly proud of your demonstrated ability to ignore anything that interferes with the Approved DMOZ Worldview..

 

Read in adult section, thread discussion about 2257 when a Meta (Jez...) in response to an editor that asks the question about what they should do with sites that do not have 2257 declaration and are illegal according to American law, instructs the editors that they should not care about this and list those sites anyway.

 

Minstrel, ummm was that pic all the 'proof' you could come up with

That's just so chronically and awfully bad. I hate to say it, but it's also not actual proof of anything at all. Not even a hint !
Just what you think might be a witty and sarcastic 'response' ? And not even the first time you've posted it either.

Awful, and I don't even know why I wasted typing this either apart from it made me giggle a bit if that's the best you can come up with luv. Oh dear.

 

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