You have been asking about if we remove sites because they are submitted to the wrong category. ANSWER NO WE DO NOT. They are either left for someone else to check or sent to what the editor thinks is the correct category. You are also asking If sites can be removed are spam sites removed. Yes they are. but they ARE NOT REMOVED BECAUSE they have been sent to the wrong category. They are removed BECAUSE they are spam or are not being used. I repeat myslef LISTABLE sites are NOT removed BECAUSE they are sent to the wrong category, sites are only removed if they are spam or being not used in the directory. It is technically possible to remove any site but what do you think should happen to an editor if they removed several perfectly good categories. Let's say an editor removed the whole of the category in which your site is listed, what do you think we should do and what would you demand? But that is an option, an editor can always remove the whole of the directory so that's an option too. Now stop being silly. Editors do NOT remove listable sites BECAUSE they are sent to the wrong category anymore than they de-list the whole of the directory AND LEAVE ALL THE PAGES BLANK. It is technically possible for you to cut all your fingers off and not be able to type on here, but you wouldn't do it would you?
then explain this from the ADD page... Identify the single best category for your site. The Open Directory has an enormous array of subjects to choose from. You should submit a site to the single most relevant category. Sites submitted to inappropriate or unrelated categories may be rejected or removed. *shrug* And I am the one trying to mislead people ... At least I read the guidelines.
Its simple......they may be rejected, or removed. NOT deleted, but REMOVED and sent to a more appropriate category. You are nit picking on words and trying to twist things yet again Yes.......then you twist and manipulate them
WOW... I'd like to see your definition of the REJECTED word on the that part of the add page. re·ject    /v. rɪˈdʒɛkt; n. ˈridʒɛkt/ Show Spelled[v. ri-jekt; n. ree-jekt] Show IPA –verb (used with object) 1. to refuse to have, take, recognize, etc.: to reject the offer of a better job. 2. to refuse to grant (a request, demand, etc.). 3. to refuse to accept (someone or something); rebuff: The other children rejected him. The publisher rejected the author's latest novel. 4. to discard as useless or unsatisfactory: The mind rejects painful memories. 5. to cast out or eject; vomit. 6. to cast out or off. 7. Medicine/Medical. (of a human or other animal) to have an immunological reaction against (a transplanted organ or grafted tissue): If tissue types are not matched properly, a patient undergoing a transplant will reject the graft. Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2010. Either the ODP needs a glossary for all the words they are redefining, or it's the editors that are nitpicking... When I read something, I tend to understand the words used. When someone comes along and says that I am wrong, I can generally respect that... HOWEVER, when that person is using some foreign version of the english language that's just really really hard on communication... and that is exactly what the editors of the ODP have been doing the last few months. This is what, the 3rd or 4th word the editors are changing?
So we need a dictionary to educate people on what a word means? Irregardless of how you twist, how you interpret or whatever you say......The fact remains that if a site is suggested to the wrong category, it will not be deleted, it will be sent to an appropriate category. You can argue and play on words all day, the fact has been stated, you may as well accept it.
Are you speaking for ALL editors? If you are, then petition to get the wording changed in the guidelines. As this is yet another instance of how the guidelines can be completely and totally disregarded by the editing community. While I agree that a site should be moved, the guidelines CLEARLY state that REJECTING them is perfectly fine. I can not believe I am bickering about the guidelines, trying to actually enforce them... but then, like I said, I guess this is a perfect example of why they are not even needed, as at least this thread shows two editors that are not following them. Must explain the spam that gets in... and don't tell me that editors do not approve spam, look in the ODP, there are plenty of examples of it...and don't say it's not allowed by the rules, you are saying that the rules do not need to be followed in this very thread. and note, I am NOT TWISTING ANYTHING... I gave the meaning of REJECT and you are the one saying that REJECTING a site means moving it rather then actually DELETING it as the actual definition means... so twisting? Sorry, thats all on you and Anonymously.
There is a very intense subject in here and you all should have a breath of air and chill a little :d I have some questions.. If a site that has potential is being submitted into a dmoz category that best fits from his opinion but in reality that isn`t a great category for the site.. what happens? The site is removed and moved into a properly category or it`s just ignored and ignored every editor saying that the next one will check it. So that site will stay there for a long long time.. I know that the editors are voluntarily and there time is very precious but it doesn`t seem fair for a real business that just want to add his site into a category.. although they read all of the guidelines and checked and overchecked the right category for the site.. but they just mixed up the category with a wrong one.. Why should these sites be removed or ignored and compared with a bunch of sites of spam that chose the category after 1-2 minutes? I am in this situation for over a year. When I entered dmoz I read the guidelines and chose the category that best fits to the site. The site isn`t a spam,game,tutorial site or like others similarly sites.. It is a site with unique content, a business.. I send the site and after 6-7 months nothing happened and although the competitors of the firm were in the same category my site was inexistent. I read again and again and finally submitted the site again. But until now there is the same problem.. What is the real problem in all of this?.. Excuse me if I made grammatical errors but this isn`t my natal language.
Sorry but there is the mistake you operate under. We are not a listing service for web owners or for businesses. We have no concern for if our listing gives any site any extra value or views. We collect sites as a hobby and we collect ones we think will be useful for people searching for sites wanting to use a collated, categorised tool. Editors can choose what source they wish to use to build those categories and the suggestions pool is only one such source which an editor may or may not choose to use and it is only a suggestion that is being made. As editors we do NOT see our main task as trying to list as many sites as possible from the suggestions pool. If editors do not review it, yes that can happen. Suggested sites can take from a few days to a few years for a review for a possible listing, we do not force editors to work in categories they do not want to work in, we do not force editors to use the suggestions pool because in some categories it is full of spam and editors are better using their own knowledge, we do not force editors do more than one edit in every 4 months. So if you can predict how much time any editor will give to DMOZ in the next year, and you can predict which categories they will work in we can predict how long sites in those categories will take to get a review. But I can't predict any of that about myself, let alone any other editor. Moral of story, submit to the best category and forget, site will be moved if the category is not the best. Don't offer again you can get branded as a spammer. Nothing more you can do at DMOZ.
although you say that a lot of the real competitors are listed. and they did just the same thing. searched the best category and post.
Did I mention that anyone was not listed? I said we did not care what value it added, there may be competitors or yours listed. Sorry we do not undertake to find out who is a competitor of who and list some sort of balance. Did you bother to read the guidelines and comments about suggesting a URL? Because if you had you would have come across this http://www.dmoz.org/add.html Your site may be listed one day when an editor volunteers to work in that area and wants to use the suggestions pool. Reread my comments about when that may be. Sorry DMOZ is run by volunteers and the model we work on does not insist that any editor does something they do not wish to do. There are many directories with different models, if you want to pay then I understand that Yahoo and Best of the Web offer a good service.
WHOA! are you seriously going to go there in this thread? I quoted the very page you are referring two, and you disagreed with what it said! The damned thing says a site suggested to the wrong category can get REJECTED and you say that does not happen, and then point someone to the very page with blaring errors? Oh never mind... you quoted the ONLY thing that should be on the page, in fact, you quoted the only thing that should be set as the guidelines at all! Editorial Discretion the rest is a complete and total waste of server space as seemingly no editors bother with the rest.... Wanna know another fallacy that is on the add page? The Open Directory team welcomes comments and feedback about the directory generally. Please let us know what you think, and how we can improve the service. Thanks!
@ extr3m3's Be assured that if YOUR site has been suggested to the wrong category, I am 99.9% confident that it will simply be moved to the suggestion pool for the correct category. In all honesty, even Editors have, or can have a hard time picking the 100% correct category. I know if i look at a site that involves computers, or something involving renewable energy or many of the diseases or afflictions that can be published in the health cats, then i have probably a 50-50 chance of picking the 100% correct cat. Thats why i dont edit there, i have no expertise in some cats, i may have no interest in the subject and dont know what im doing.......so i send them as best i can and they get removed from where i send them, into the correct cat which is where i shoould have sent them. Does that make sense? Editors arent perfect, the Editalls and Metas are very experienced and sort these things out daily, so their placement skills are more refined. These are the facts, IGNORE Q.
Yeah, just ignore me, and the freaken guidelines...as the FACTS are certainly not contained within those *shrug* If the ADD page is wrong, why do you guys keep pointing it out to people? Its VERY confusing when you say one thing, they say another yet you keep pointing to them...
You do realize the part you just quoted me saying is actually ON the add page... and also note, there have been several times you've claimed that the ODP is NOT a service. As for my correspondence with AOL, I'll leave that for you to help me with... Contact Information for DMOZ/ODP Ya see, I asked for the actual contact info for the ODP yet no editors seemed to have cared enough to of shared such information. Funny that... editors NOT being helpful. It's something the web has gotten used to...if you want help from the ODP, join the ODP...
We welcome new members, just hopefully they dont do 6 edits and have to leave Some people have done that, havent they?
Yes, some have done that, and I was one of them...and ya wanna know what? I got plenty of help from the ODP at the time, which I guess proves my point.... However, you may wish to not twisting things around so much... head in and check my edit history, you'll see it was a bit more then 6. *sigh*
oh another question. These links that you get to move into the right cateogories. Do they have an order? I mean if someone who sent the link in 12 september 2009 is in the top of the list than a person that sent the link in 12 march 2010? Or they are aleatory?
Depends on how the editor wishes to work. We have options of how to look at the suggestions pool, but they do come up as a list and that shows the title that has been offered, the description offered and the latest date that the site has been suggested. That last is because if a site is offered twice it will show as the latest date, so if an editor does view the list by date, and work from old to new, then a site with a second submission will be lower down the list than the one it overwrote. So, personally, I do tend to work by date order, but I will also glance down any list to see if there is an 'easy' list (and indeed an easy move, like sites not in English). So someone who has tried to use a title that is correct and has written an objective description ie no hype, like 'the best in town' I will have a look at first. Seems to me that if people take the trouble to read the guidelines of what we want, then i am prepared to look at them first. Looking first does not guarantee a list, the site has got to be one that also conforms and that I believe will enhance the category I am working in. But I do have to say that is how I look at the suggestions pool, but I also work in categories and add sites that I have found myself, so I don't by any manner of means check the suggestions every time I work in an area. I hope that answers your question, sorry there is no short answer because we do not see ourselves as a listing service for web site owners. We do accept suggestions but we dot guarantee any site a listing, neither do we undertake to review any site in any given time.
That's a good point. DMOZ is free and uses volunteers as editors. Submit it and forget it is the correct motto to have when submitting to the site.