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How I made $100 000 with CJ. affiliate marketer exposed!!

Discussion in 'Commission Junction' started by surf4fun, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. siddiq

    siddiq Peon

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    #21
    even the google cant make such money in i month
    SEMrush
     
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  2. surf4fun

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    #22
    my posts have forced NAB to come back in the forum

    he was sleeping with peace.. in pakistan apartment

    see how powerful i am now :D joking

    I have taken the peace and rest out of gurus..
    joking


    NAB Can we go through a series of question against your business system.

    Do a Feasibility study! Of your current business model.

    But you cannot reverse the questions unlike other webmasters and point them back to me..

    Assume I am bank loan manager and want to expand your business... depending on your production capacity daily sales turn over etc.

    The questions will be big long.. and it will waiste your valuable time..

    The rest of the peoples from this forum cannot mislead or post during the question answer session..

    You will be single and tortured to death mentally before we evaluate your digital business. There is no gurantee if after the question answer session you can go back to your business anymore. ;)

    But you can always reply "no reply" or "no comments" to some of the questions that you will hate to answer. This will give you minus points.. and positive answers will give +10


    But then you can ask what is the benefit of answering such questions.. Its the sake to save your business from label of gambling business model or most gurus are fake and blood and money suckers..


    Lets see now! NAB You are the MAN!
     
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  3. Nabs

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    #23
    I've and not replied to my own thread, and I will keep my promise.

    I was actually inactive on this forum, But your utter stupid posts convinced me write again. Congrats!

    Q: Assume I am bank loan manager and want to expand your business... depending on your production capacity daily sales turn over etc.

    A: I started my web development business with less than $10, and I never felt need of money for my Business. But I did needed $40,000 loan back in mid 2006 for personal use. My bank was able to give loan based on my current business model.

    I own websites, and those are my business property, no one can take them away from me.

    When I was researching about this Business, I thought somewhat similar to you.

    What I think and recommend is, this is a very risky business model. If you're on a day job, then you should start Affiliate Marketing as a part time business only. When you have solid history, say $5,000+ for last 12 months or so, and you see it growing, then its okay to do it full time.
    It means that if you're capable of maintaining $5,000 per month all year long, then it you are on the right track. Dropping the day job is actually a very good idea at that time. Since you will then have all day long to do you work, you can actually multiply your income by many times.

    For those who think that Affiliate Marketing is not a full time business or even a business, then no one is forcing them to believe it is. You can always do your own business which you actually consider as a business, but if you are interested in Affiliate Marketing also, then you can always do it in your spare time. As it has a very low starting cost.

    A week ago I tried Forex.com's Practice account for Forex trading. But I left it, as its extremely risky, as much like gamble. Now, its my opinion that Forex is gamble. Those who invest Millions of dollars in Forex trading will get hyped up when someone call their way of business a gamble.
    In Forex trading, your hard earned money is at risk, but In Affiliate Marketing, the investment is very low.

    If you still call this business a gamble, then its your opinion, and opinions can't be enforced to others. I hope you understand.

    There are scams in Marketing, but please don't include all the industry in it.

    About questioning and answering session against my business. What do you think Why I stopped replying to my own thread?
     
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    #24
    Hi Everybody,


    I have been reading the CJ threads DP for over 2 months daily to educate myself. I am a seasoned web designer (8 years) I never really tried affiliate marketing but lived in the PPC world (started with GOTO.com) :rolleyes:

    I joined CJ a little over a month ago. During the month of June I have made $306 with a few CJ relationships.

    I do not consider this a huge amount of money, nor am I bragging but it is enough to get my attention and validate in my mind what Nabs, Webwork and many others have been repeatably saying. Becoming and expert at Affiliate marketing takes:

    time to educate yourself,
    ability to see (create) a niche (market) or compelling request
    discernment enough to understand your demographic
    and time to educate yourself some more.

    Thanks to the level heads that take the time to explain squirrelly thinking and negative people.

    FYI here are 2 sites with totally different appeals www.buymecard.com and www.buymecard.net that I did fairly well with

    Thanks again for everybody's help:) Now I gotta see if I can repeat and increase :)

    BeFree
     
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  5. surf4fun

    surf4fun Peon

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    #25
    ok nabs thanks for ending the session before it was open...

    you cleared us out..

    Best of luck with your ventures. May Allah Bhagwan God (Same power) bless you.

    So its some thing like forex trading..

    Hmm.. I was trying to find some thing on web like producing potatoes and selling them for a fixed rate or market rate..

    Say we have a group 100 ppl .. all working 8 hours a day .. and have daily production capacity of 10000 pcs then selling it somewhere off..

    We dont care what machinery or fixed cost are needed.

    I thought about software scripts ebooks etc.. but then there is no fixed market value of it.. and its a market where consumers are less but downloaders are more and mostly they wait to get it from blackhat warez forums..

    Domain flipping etc.. and you can see many n many domains are unsold.. or very little paid..

    Providing service to ppls. like directory submission article submission.. hmm i dont think there is enough demand and day by day the submission charge per 1000-2000 directory has come to a point.. (after allsubmitter was invented) that it will be very hard to sustain a 100 employee business..

    article or content creation Most are unsold.

    The industry sucked very much when it was said 95% failed. and its a spare time business.

    Its kind of industry where 2 ppl is more then enough. Brainstorming for the next money hungry visitor hunting scheme or website or blog.

    Its a business?

    Hmm Well yaa..

    But not to depend your life on.

    Like you said if you are making continous $5k month for a year. Then you should think yes this was for you.. otherwise its just a time waiste.. you are producing nothing but trash. giving google hard time to clean those out.

    But then. How come sites like Stumbleupon Digg comes out and make to the Television Press and live forever? And be part of our daily life? Those are just scripts. Nothing so special. Do they come out with marketing and creation budget of Millions? How come all of a sudden the whole world knows about stumbleupon.. they sell direct advertising. they dont depend on affiliate income. How is those big sites happening.

    Rather then blogging with content articles videos and submitting to the big sites.. for a little chunk of the traffic.. what are we missing from internet as real business.

    I have a feeling there is something more in this industry that is being hided out. not written in any books or crooks..

    I have seen 1500 article directories popping out. None are popular like ezine articles goarticles
    I have seen 1000s of video sites popping out none are popular like youtube or porntube
    I have seen so much social site clones .. but none is popular as digg stumbleupon propeller and one i forgot


    Really I dont want to see myself as a blogger or affiliate marketer.

    I want to see ppl actually being served by my website. And it was invented not as a trash or clone. and i dont want to jump on trees seeing i have 50k visitors on my website and provide screenshot to ppls.

    I want to be known like I am the Managing Director of StumbleUpon and not say my website is a secret and i cannot disclose it to you guys..

    Well whom I will ask this.. as Nabs is himself just an affiliate. Trying to mint some traffic and money out of the free pool.
     
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  6. Nabs

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    #26
    Whatever it is, a business or a child's play or whatever you call it, I give a damn. But it made me rich, and I love the feeling of no BOSS above me. If this business model fails for me at some point, fine for me. I will be a landlord at that point.

    You mentioned about flooding Google with duplicate content, Its Google's problem not ours. And I think Google is doing nice job penalizing duplicate content.

    What you will find in every Affiliate forum is that there is no secret in this industry. And that is so true.

    I'm not just an Affiliate!!!!! , I'm a Web Developer, Graphic Designer, Web Publisher, etc, etc.

    Websites are just like a TV channel. You get paid of showing advertisement, available in all methods, CPM, CPC, CPA, CPS. But I emphasized on CPS, which makes me an Affiliate Marketer.

    You may like to have someone above you as a BOSS or maybe you can't work without a BOSS above you. But I can't work with a BOSS above me.

    I can work, watching TV.
    I can work, sitting nude.
    I can work, eating nuggets.
    I can work with my family.
    I wake up any time I want.
    I can sleep all day.
    I don't have to worry about being late at office.
    I don't have to listen to my BOSS.
    I can go on vacations anytime I want.
    I can work from anywhere.
    I can move my business to any country with a click of a mouse.

    These area the luxuries of Affiliate Marketing. And I love it.


    This is a young industry, so most people are not aware of it, therefore it becomes complicated to to tell someone else what you actually do, especially in a country like India.
     
    Nabs, Jun 27, 2008 IP
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    #27

    Amen.


    Life is good.
     
    webwork, Jun 27, 2008 IP
  8. vitalbusiness

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    Nabs, if I was making 30,000-40.000 a month, as you claim you're making, I would not be posting anyting on this or any other forums. You are full of crap my friend. The fact you keep defending yourself tells me only one thing - you are lying. Please, leave this forum alone. You are full of BS. I want you to start defending this one too. See how far will your lying nature go... Your side kick webwork will help you.

    Honest people go on offensive. Liars always go on defensive.

    90% you and others are posting is crap (as far as their earning concerned). You make nothing yet claim to be something.

    I just laugh at you. Keep dreaming. Ha!
     
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    #29
    lol @ the haters.

    All the people making 30k+ per month post on a super secret forum, and you're not invited.

    I decided to write an ebook, the title is "Hate Me Because I Make More Money Than You" -- would you guys be interested in giving some testimonials?
     
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    #30
    Haters? You hate every other nation but Israel. I believe Israel IS God's chosen one but it it is doesn't mean He hates other nations. You do. Your theology is ROTTEN.

    You and Nabs continue to lie for whatever reason. God is your judge. If you are telling the truth - God is your judge. He knows all.
     
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  11. surf4fun

    surf4fun Peon

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    #31
    lol vitalbusiness come down man

    now you are becoming them..

    what will be difference if we all call each other fool idiot etc

    they cannot show their website.. yet they are business man..

    they run away when questioned yet they are gurus..

    they just love to seat at home.. and thats what they are doing..

    using their spare time to make some money and brag about it to others.

    any problem with it?

    i guess no..

    lets forgive this souls..

    remember God loves and cares everyone..
    They are enjoying their lifes..
    they dont care what is ahead or behind them..
    they are rich kid.. NO TENSION DO FUN

    they know only one thing.. POST SCREENSHOT AND I AM RICH.
    they are boss haters.. they are their own boss..where there is no employee..

    Nab himself said he quitted his school after 9.

    So what can you expect from a Class 9 failed person?

    He will run microsoft? and post here his website is www.microsoft.com

    They hate boss.. But which boss on earth will employ a class 9 failed person in a corporate job?


    Anyway good luck webwork and nab..

    Life is big.. it will teach you lessons later...Life itself is a school.. And God the greatest punisher


    Good luck..! kids... college bunkers! (business mans lol)
     
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    #32
    yeah man guys like ncmedia, nabs,webwork just contribute crap and lure newbies into buying their products. They claim to offer tips that everyone knows , fair enough you dont have to teach ppl but you dont have to post fake screenshots that help nobody. I'm really glad that I'm not the only one that sees this BS on the forum.
     
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    #33
    lol @ Vital. That's great, but last time I checked this wasn't the religion forum.

    and Patchkaa your little theory might work if we were actually selling something - LOL.
     
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    lol. Amazing. Eating more Nuggets :rolleyes:
     
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    webwork Banned

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    #35
    It's like some kind of retarded circus.
     
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    #36
    sock thật.
     
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    #37
    I can't believe I just read through this whole thread... And I have no idea why you're not banned already. I won a copy of one of NCMedia's products, and from my perspective it's an absolutely fantastic product and I learned a whoole lot in it.

    How about you go and call the guys at Stompernet, Mike Filsaime or Eben Pagan and tell them that they're not running a real business. Hah...

    Nabs, NCMedia and the other guys is what makes a forum like this worth going to, people like you make me want to stay away from here.

    And staying in the SERPs is a whole science, people have proven ways to STAYING on top, and that secret is hitting it with constant and non-stop backlinks.

    My suggestion is that you either stop bullshitting this forum or you get the fuck out of here because you're ruining everyone's experience.
     
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    #38
    lemonarian why not go to your loved guru NCmedias office or house for 1 month... and see how much he really making with his methods? I am sure you will realise he makes 1000 times more selling the methods then doing or practicing those himself?

    there are millions of methods books scripts and crooks blogger flogger generators etc are openly available just search alexa and other black forums..

    All of them just give one messege if you already dont knw..
    JUST RINSE AND REPEAT JUST RINSE AND REPEAT JUST RINSE AND REPEAT

    Or is your guru ncmedia has given a new messege? Dont rinse just seat and rake the cash?

    Follow his method.. 26 days a month.

    I give you 26 days 16 hours per day.

    Each day you have to provide your earning stats here.. (we wont count google adsense ppc or cpm earning)

    only sales is counted

    And at the end of each month we need your bank statement. (how much you invested how much return on investment you made)


    And sufficient proof that this business model you can continue for the rest of your life.

    You have to do it for 6 complete month.

    If you want to back up your guru then take the challange..

    or dont brag about it.. we know more gurus then Stompernet, Mike Filsaime or Eben Pagan.

    Prove your gurus or you get the f**Cout of here! rather then scam the newbies in name of gurus!
     
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    webwork Banned

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    #39
    Surf you need to realize you're doing more damage than good.
     
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    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    #40
    I'd like to chime in and simply offer a few points while I too, eat some nuggets, and do whatever I want with my time. Here's a look into my world, feel free to rip me apart however it will change nothing. I have NO FEAR in showing you my websites, my stickers (i love that you call them that), me earnings, my success to date....

    Marketing for 12 years: http://www.ncmedia.ca some happy clients - http://www.ncmedia.ca/portfolio

    My product line that I created internally and with partners in the last 6-8 months: http://www.nichechoppers.com/niche-products.html

    Another site that will launch soon which shows MANY ways to earn on and offline: http://www.webdesignmillionaire.com

    Some viable proof re making 12.5K in 2 weeks with no adspend << Instead, helping newbies with their marketing:http://www.norbsmoney.com/from-0-to-12500-in-15-days-no-adspend-my-new-clickbank-record/

    Threads here that have been praised due to my help:

    Gave away over 25 copies of a new IM product when launching: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=811869

    Gave away over $3000 worth of my premium course product:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=788465

    Spending hours on end simply posting my top tips for newbies 'just because', and for good karma.

    Volume I:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=831441

    Volume II:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=889467 << Collectively these have over 5000 views, tons of replies and feel free to check the rep on first posts...

    Proof I make my affiliates money, some way more steady than you might think, and no I never sell them anything: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=863062&page=7 << Notice it's 7 pages long now, and since starting I've helped well over 30 people personally convert and pop their CB cherry's (noobs to CB, and experienced folks convert even more).

    My private forum where you can see many success stories from my happy family, who learn for free: http://forums.nichechoppers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=20 <<Brand new section and already plenty of proof...

    12 years, 600 clients, 2 beamers, an executive home, and NO it's not from your sticker theory, it's from hard work. It's from helping others, it's from delivering to my clients and to my family. It's from Designing websites, Print campaigns, multimedia promos, logos, corporate ID's, banner campaigns, flash demos, full branding treatments, Radio ads, even had my own TV show for a while here in Canada on the Rogers Network: http://youtube.com/watch?v=hhpgZZ4soI0 - Further, make my own products, partnering with people on projects, to date I've developed well over 3000 'stickers' (marketing assets), consulted some of the most powerful people and brands in North America, and for you to label me nothing but an affiliate guru with no acceptable business plan or default to no credit, is nice but not correct.

    Stability in this business is hard to achieve, and being labeled is easy - If you have drive, and passion, you shall succeed at anything you truly put your heart to, be it the cities best taxi driver or internet marketer. Labeling anyone and everyone that touches affiliate marketing is a bunch of nonsense - making and replicating revenue streams for 12 years and living comfortably and in charge of my own time/life this whole time - is - well - a blessing, but at the same time is nothing short of a 'real business'. For 2 of those years, I was a creative director in a 'real job' - for CanWest Global << Canada's biggest media mogul, six figure salary, perks, benefits, you name it - I felt 'secure' - 2 years went by and 95% of my dept including me got laid off << NOTHING in life is secure other than your own desire to be so.

    I don't need to be 'youtube' or 'stumbleupon' to be successful, you need to ask yourself, how you define success - because it is different for everyone - for me it is to be in charge of my own time, my own life, my whole life, so far so good and I have the internet to partially thank for that, and my people skills, and simply being nice to my fellow man without prejudice.

    You need to finally realize surf, no matter how many times you try to instill your intrusions into others lives or ways of doing business, you will not change the world or this board, however I will applaud that you're looking out for newbies and will attest that you shouldn't quit your day job unless you prove consistency, have a strong stomach for fluctuations, and are happy being a hunter rather than a task taker - Oops, my Taxi is here - gotta go!
     
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