Ezinearticles a waste of time?

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by setset, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hello digital point. Before I go on, I would like to introduce myself. This is my first post but I've been a lurker for some time. I am a native English speaker and I consider myself bright. I hope to connect with like minded individuals to learn and contribute all I can.

    Enough chatter. Let's get to my point! :D I've been slowly working on my website. This is a personal website but I believe I can monetize it with adsense. I've been writing lots of different articles on hubpages and linking the relevant ones to my website. I've also used Ezinearticles (EZA) to promote my site. The problem I face is 2 folds.

    I know article marketing is suppose to build authority and in turn, passively build traffic. If this wasn't true, I would just stop right now. How many articles should it take to build decent traffic or authority? I have about 10 long articles (over 800 words) and one of these articles reached PR3 in a week. Yet I am getting mere trickles onto my site from EZA.

    My other problem is article duplication. I posted an article on EZA a while ago that linked to one of my hubpages. I was messing around and decided to google my name. I found that someone has duplicated an article I wrote on EZA. I know about syndication and this is allowed but this person did not give me a link back at the resource box. I sent an email to the webmaster with no reply. Looking at his site further, I suspect it to be somewhat automated. It appears the whole site was data mining EZA and posting content as their own without linking back. Should I worry about this? If my articles have been cached by google first, do I have to worry? I'm assuming google would just flag that person's content as duplicate and credit mines but I am not sure.

    That brings up the topic at hand. I am spending a good amount of time writing these articles. They are hand written. Is it worth my time to keep doing this or should I spend my time doing something else?
     
    setset, Jan 22, 2010 IP
  2. tash1

    tash1 Peon

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    my advice would be to just have 1 article and use jetspinner for free this changes your articles about 30% and you can get upto 50 i believe for free this way you get credit for each article and it is more back links so good for serps. and then post these articles on wordpress blogs as these get good traffic and are very good for search engine rankings as they are good quality backlinks. to find the appropriate blogs just type in to google
    keyword associated to your niche''powered by wordpress mu''
    and this lets you post a your own blog on there website and just add one of your articles and add links to your website in the keywords.
    regardin the guy who copied you it wont affect you really

    thats the best adv9ce i can give you hope it helps
     
    tash1, Jan 22, 2010 IP
  3. manofwar

    manofwar Active Member

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    EZA is worth it if you are a real author, and write quality content. If you help people, it will help your site :)
     
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    EZA is a waste of time. Hub is mediocre in my opinion but much better than EZA. I'd never publish on a site which takes my copyright away - that's a mug's game.

    I know article publishing works - and it only attracts interested readers to my sites and those of my clients.

    In my experience the best performing articles are 150-300 words long. If I write a 800 word article I publish it in two parts and give a link to part two from part one and visa versa.
     
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    webbmaster Well-Known Member

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    i do not have good experience with them either.. i bet it gets diluted so much the return is getting slim as time goes by.. as far as some bots stealing your content.. you should contact the host provider of that website and file a DMCA complaint... it infringes upon your copyright... hosting company .. that is the right place to start the process.. good luck
     
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  7. areguy

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    I like the American Chronicle. If you write good stuff, it gets picked up an many associated sites. Sure it is duplicate and you only get credit for the original, but it gets in front of tons or eyeballs.
     
    areguy, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    steveeyes Well-Known Member

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    I personally like EZA and find it beneficial for backlinks. As far as someone copying your content all I can say is welcome to the internet and article writing. I'm sure you could take some type of action but I fear that I would spend more time tracking down those who used my article without links, than writing. It is the same with swapping links and keeping track if the other site maintains your link....waste of time. Consequently I focus on writing and chalk up some of the shenanigans that happens on the net as part of doing business.
     
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  9. PHPGator

    PHPGator Banned

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    EzineArticles I don't believe is a waste of time. I still find it to be one of the more productive free ways to gain more traffic to a website. I think others hit the nail on the head, if you are trying to scrape by with 250 words just barely enough content to get into ezinearticles, you won't get many visitors, if any. However, if you have informative articles that are really helping your readers, then people will link to the article and would probably be interested in your site. The ONLY way I would do minimal 250 word articles is if I was looking for backlinks only. Even then, I think it is worth your time just to go ahead and put some extra effort into making good solid articles so you get the best of both worlds.

    What can you expect? Well, not a flood of traffic by any means. Just to give you a rough idea, i've posted roughly 5 articles total on one of my ecommerce sites ONLY to ezinearticles. I've gotten maybe 30 visitors from that in the last month. That's not a lot, but it's more than what I had. I think that's the key. You have to build off where your at, which for most people is 0. 30 visitors is better than no visitors. Next month, I want to double that.

    Just keep that in mind, it's a slow process, but helps keep you focused.
     
    PHPGator, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    sciborg Banned

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    I have quite a few articles at EZA. I also quite good traffic from them All my articles are at least 500 words.
     
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    EZA can bring you good traffic but you need to learn how to write your articles effectively. From the looks of it you don't not to be mean. But your articles are long! Shorten them up to 300 words people have to do a ton of reading before they reach your link in the resource area. That would be the first move I would suggest to you. I posted effective article tactics in my blog in my sig if you would like to read up more.
     
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    We all have dud articles that get maybe 50 views and 5 url clicks. Outside of the 5 visitors (which is obviously not 5 worth writing an article that generates only 5 visitors), there are other benefits to posting your article on ezine.

    #1, you get a targeted backlink and can pick the anchor text
    #2, other people can repost your article and spread it so you get more links.

    What I am getting at, is that it is not only about the visitors from ezine, but other potential visitors that either find your article and re-post it, and spread your links.

    If your articles are getting very few visits/click-thrus, perhaps there is some other issue? As others have already stated, 800 words is like a book, when you really want to just generate the interest and then get the visitor to click your link.
     
    BizDetail, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    I use Ezine quite a bit and it brings me about 40 visits a day, so keep it up.
     
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    Personally I use ezine for a lot of my affiliate site..becuz of the targeting with keywords. Another thing I've used and is quite affective is a myspace blog if you want ur site to be picked up quickly..;)
     
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    setset Peon

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    Thanks for all the advice. I seem to be getting some mixed feelings about EZA. While posting at EZA, the reason I wrote long articles (800 plus words) is to increase the chance of other people re-publishing my work. I was thinking more long term goals. If I were to publish the bare minimum (I believe 300 words) then that would only serve as a backlink and nothing else. Unless I am missing something else? Let's be honest here, no one is going to republish a crappy 300 "spam" article aimed at redirecting to the resource box.

    As far as the bots stealing my work. Yes, I agree with most of you guys. That's a part of the internet and I completely understand that it comes with the territory. My main concern about copied content is Google. Are they the watch dogs sort to speak? For instance if they cache my EZA page and a week later, finds the exact one on nonamblog.com, I shouldn't have to worry right? I mean I suppose I could contact the webmaster, host, etc but more often than not, that's a bigger time sink if google already says I was the originator.

    I've been reading lots of articles that are accepted by EZA. Most of them are crap. is EZA lowering their standards?

    @ webbmaster. I can't help but agree with you. It seems everyone is itching for that easy backlink. That's good and bad I suppose. I could write a wicked helpful 800 word article and another author could write a crappy 300 word article and at the end of the day, we would get the same backlink. Writing great articles and hoping that some other sites re-publish it seems like a silly dream to me. I mean, do any of you guys republish EZA content?

    Comparing EZA to Hubpages is fair. I've had some hubs index on google in a few days. Not only that but I get a share of the adsense earnings (60%). If I was merely looking for a backlink, wouldn't hubpages trump EZA in all aspects? Yes I know EZA's syndication claims but lets be honest here. Has anyone here had their EZA content republished on a good site AND they kept the resource box intact? I'm just looking at this from a objective positive and I don't realistically see that happening.
     
    setset, Jan 22, 2010 IP
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    EZA is for traffic first and backlinks second. Almost everyone agrees that ton of backlinks from the same domain won't do a lot of good.

    Yes, people steal your stuff, but they will do so from your website as well. Personally I think that getting that one article that goes viral on Ezine is the best you can do for your business. I wrote one article about a year ago when I was just starting out that really took off (3000 views 300 clicks), and it was published many times. I still see hops in my Clickbank account daily from that article that got published. Too bad the product is a dud.

    Ezinearticles is the best article directory after they cut their approval time dramatically. If you want an article directory that ranks well and let's you put links in the body text, then ArticlesBase is the best choice. They rank almost as good as Ezines.

    Hubpages do not have nowhere near the same Google love that Ezine does. You will be very lucky to even get indexed without backlinks.

    Here is what you can do:

    Put your long article on your website first, then spin it or rewrite a shorter version and submit to EzineArticles, GoArticles, ArticlesBase, Article Dashboard, Article Alley, IdeaMarketers or use a service like mine to spin it into hundreds of %60-%70 unique articles and submit to 150+ article directories. That WILL give results.
     
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    It is all about your experience and opinion. EZA is very OK. No matter the complain, many people started their article writing carrier from EZA by learning from other people's articles. Their TOS forbid duplication and real person review their article
     
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    Budgetwise, keep writing articles but to save you a lot of time, you should use spinners. I rather suggest outsourcing writers, so you can implement other traffic strategies.

    You have to keep them articles short, interesting, and to the point. Enough for them to want more information to click on your link.
     
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    Regarding your article that got stolen, since it was cached by Google first it should not become an issue for you. The person who stole it will get the slap for the duplicate content, at least that is how I understand it. I also agree to cut that word count in half. Most of the articles I write for ezine are around 430 words or so. I am considering writing some shorter ones and see if they fare better.
    Good luck with your endeavors!
     
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    EZA is great for traffic especially if it is niched. I have a website about matchsticks and I have over 2500 visitors to the ezine article with a 47.2 click through rate to my site which is excellent.

    If you right about subjects that everyone else is writing about, unless your writing style is exceptional, you won't get as much traffic, but if you really niche down to a very specific topic then you will get more serious readers clicking to your site.

    since I joined EZA over 2 years ago it has always driven me traffic. some article are better than others, but you can soon see which style works in any niche by comparing other articles in the same niche and seeing what style the leader in views is using.

    Titles get the immediate attention and then the opening sentence should be a killer.

    Don't forget to include your name in the resource box. EZA have loads of tips of the site to help you.
     
    argon, Jan 24, 2010 IP