Bush verses Kerry DP poll

I just typed a fairly large post, then decided to delete it...

I'm not going to start slaggin people off...

But yes, I've had enough of Blair brown nosing Bush. I've had enough of this country spending HUGE amounts of money (Wich is nothing compared to the spend in the US) on wars that CAN'T BE WON.

There are too many fights going on at the moment. If Bush wasn't quite so heavy handed, then they might not be happening at all...

Anthony, I agree with you 100%. Things must change, but unfortunatly, I can't see that happening with either administration (Either here or in the US).

A guy on another forum made a point about how sick he was of going to the supermarket and having to peel away layers of plastic and cardboard just to get to his meal...

We all waste too much (And I am helping to contribute to that waste just as much as anyone else)...

There are countries that could completly change the standard of living that 90% of the people have to endure, just because of the lazy way we all live our lives.

I just don't think that things will change until the Liberal Democrats (I don't know what the US alternative is) get into power...

All governments are the same. They just say it differently...

Personally, I would vote for Kerry, but that is only because I feel that things couldn't get any worse than they are now.

 

SE, the British have a long history in the land we now call Iraq, in fact in the 1920's when they left rule there, they changed the borders and united three enemy nations into one nation and there have been wars ever since.

The modern wars are over OIL POWER (the love of money) so we can not blame the British for modern troubles unless we look way back to the above example.

The bottom line is we both need more insight within our leadership, we need wisdom that is uncommon, most of the time that comes only once in a lifetime.

Churchill had it (hope I spelled his name right) but it is rare in this day and age as leaders are corrupted by bankers and businessmen.

 

Politicians ARE bankers and businessmen. The Cheney-Halliburten thing would never fly in Canada. There was a big deal here when the guy running for prime minister owned a steamship line. Conflict of interest was the big worry. Why don't americans care about Bush-Oil, Cheney-Halliburten connections?

 

First off the American People did not elect Bush and Chenny, the election was stolen by the Republicans with Bush's Brother Governor in Florida the deciding state.

Second, Americans do not do their own research, but believe bullshit published by propaganda agents of the political parties.

The Halliburton scam is well known, but Bush has folks believing they are safe with him in charge (he and his father are the ones that got us into this mess).

The only way to get out is to defeat the Bush family in this election and all future elections.

No more NIXON boys or Kissinger suckers.

 

True .. and ... True.

That's why you must leave the country now, or actually vote for who you want to win, not Bush because you are dumb, or Kerry because you don't want Bush. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
If the majority of America actually votes Bush to stay in office then I see that as a majority I don't want to live with much longer.

 

SGH, are you sure of yourself?

The majority DID NOT VOTE FOR BUSH IN THE LAST ELECTION, did you happen to know the election process itself is fucked up?

 

Yeah I know Bush didn't win.
I said if America votes Bush to STAY in office, meaning this upcoming election, then .. blah blah blah.

I know it was rigged, I believe it, and now I've lived through it.

 

Well if you do leave the country, make sure you still vote. I just sent in my voter registration.

 

If I moved to New Zealand, I can still vote for a US president?
What if I want to become a New Zealand citizen (kiwi?) do I still get to vote?
How does that work exactly?

 

Depends on New Zealand I think. Some countries make you revoke your old citizenship before they'll let you become a citizen of their country. If not, then you can vote in both countries. You would vote in the United States in the area you most recently lived.

 

Only citizens of the US can vote, if you remain a US citizen living in NZ you can still vote.

If you become a NZ citizen you can not vote in the US elections any longer.

 

Not true if you still have your US citizenship.

 

Whats not true?

 

If you have NZ and US citizenship then you can vote in both countries.

 

Duel citizenship voting rights, I do not think that is possible, what if I live in 5 countries, can I be citizens of all 5 countries and vote in all of them.

Prove what you are saying with some links.

 

It depends on the country. Like I said, some make you revoke your other citizenships before letting you become a citizen of their country. I have dual citizenship. This means full citizenship with all the resulting duties and benefits.

 

I'm suprised the UN still exists.

As the US said: we are going to war in Iraq, if you agree with us and want to join us fine, if you don't we don't care. And the UN could not stop the US even if they wanted to.

What is the point of the UN now?

 

Jebby, what other country are you a citizen of?

 

The country that one the World Hockey Championship, eh? lol

 

Dominic, the UN was against this war, now we need their help to get us out of the war. We also need the help of NATO forces and the EU to get us out of this mess.

So if we can not get along with other nations (that is supposed to be the purpose of the UN) we are up shit creek without a paddle.