It was still support and inaction on our part no matter how you want to cut it during the actual uses of chemical weapons. The US or Israel never supplied weapons to Iran?
Although I was in part glad it finally happened I was not and still am not pleased in the least on how we got there.
So? It would have been for the same reason, a powerful rogue state isn't good for anyone in the world. Just as long as they got paid for them, I am ok with that, particularly because they used them against each other. Unless someone occupied both states, it was inevitable, with modern weaponry or with forks and knives...
Yes but the US and the supporters of the current war bring up Saddams uses of WMD over and over, while the US infact supported and did not act during this specific time of chemical attacks. I do not blame the US for this, I however find it hard to swallow that this gives us reason to 'now' attack when before we almost tried to cover it up.
Lets realy not go there again, I'm sorry but after http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=34866 it makes it even harder for me to buy that argument.
I am never going to believe that WMD were not there and that they are not still there somewhere, they're not hard to hide. I'm sure they're there, including neighbouring countries. It's very sad that the embargo didn't work with Saddam, that might have meant the war being unnecessary, and the fault is with those bloody countries that bypassed it and ignored it completely while supporting it at the UN. That drives me crazy!
I don't doubt some WMD were there, I actually thought we would find some. It doesn't take from the facts of the admin using 'terror' to rally the populace for a war that realy didn't have anything to do at the moment with the US war on terror. Nor the fact that inspectors were in and Iraq was complying, including destroying their missiles that could barely make it over the UN mandated limit w/o a warhead, or allowing spying by the air, or inspectors to do suprise inspectors, or inspectors inspecting the famous site we took the sat photo's of saying WMD was moved and them not finding even a trace or any proof that anything was there. Or the admin using aluminum tubes, yellow cake, mobile weapons labs and fleets of unmanned arial vehicles ready to attack the US that were already being imported into the US. WMD aside, there are way to many other points which make me dispise 'how' we got there.
They've got to find a way of convincing Iran to abort the plan. If it's the last resource, the use of power will be inevitable. But Syria comes first I reckon, they have Saddam's WMDs right? Or is it Iran as they did for Saddam's aeroplanes?
Well if you ask Gtech this is perfectly fine. We're allowed to support murderers of the innocent as long as it's in our best interest money wise. It's ok to send them weapons and then turn your back on them and pretend like you never knew them (the same thing we did to Osama by the way). It's kind of like the best friend that double crosses you in a fight, you get into a fight with some people and your friend vows to help you, after a minute of fighting he turns around and punches you in the back.
Actually I got bored of your nine pages of denial that Christians ever hurt anyone hrbl just provided a sourced news document straight from MSN that show FBI is unlawfully breaking people's constitutional rights. And what did you do? Make more excuses about it. It's pretty bad when the damn patriot act already gave them damn near every clearance to violate all your rights in the first place, when you have to break the law and go past those limits your really pushing it... stripping away freedoms that Gtech won't stand up for.... because he "loves" our country
Actually, I don't sit around looking for and making up excuses to betray my country. Making things up, like Jimmy Massey, etc. I'm sure you find some nobility in "you think American can do no wrong" though
Never said they didn't. Allegations so far. But if found true, they should be held accountable. I'm sure you would be extra disappointed if they caught a terrorist too Oh, I feel so violated
You're right, I make everything up.. never provide real world examples do i So first we sent a bunch of biological samples to them and pretended like they were for "medical" research and then used them as an example to occupy the country.... we sure are smart
Oh, the outrage! Yea, that's the ticket, we went to Iraq for seed stock! Or, as the former KKK member proclaims "possibly having provided." What else has Byrd said in the past few years? Glad you asked!
I agree, however how does 'allegations' or if they are found true or not in any way shape or form change the actual wording of the patriot act, and how it erodes rights of US citizens? Eroding rights in anyway in my opinion is more dangerous than the terrorists themselves.
You are entitled to that opinion. Some do share it. There are many others that want our government to continue dismantling terror networks thwarting plots. And that has had tremendous impact. If along the way, they happen to catch others dealing drugs or running a chop shop, I have no objection at all. Now, if they start monitoring "Joe Blow" for no reason at all, plant some explosives in his home while he's at Walmart, then bust in one night and arrest him with Bush appearing in the background under a banner that says "Making America Safer," then we have a problem, eh? The "you have the right to be a criminal as long as you don't get caught" doesn't work for me.
I am sure you will you find an excuse to defend him even in that case. Government is always right, individuals have no rights, isn't this what fascism is all about?