I have 25k co-op weight in a site I just registered and I don't really have any use for it. I'd like to do a test of some sort but don't have the time/desire to create a new site for a test right now. Long story short ... I'm willing to let the 25k go towards a test if anyone has a worth test that we can track for ~60 days. My ideal test would be: 1) I want to test the affects of co-op on a brand new registered domain and site. Let's say new domain registered within the past 90 days and ideally only the homepage (or nothing at all) is indexed. 2) I want a site where the owner has kept pretty good record of what backlinks they have and when/how they were acquired. 3) Ideally, someone that wouldn't be doing any other link development for at least the next 60 days. PM me or post if you have a site that matches this. I may not get a site that meets these criteria, so if you have a site you'd like to use the weight for you can PM me or post the details.
It's very nice of you, but.. given that 10,000 weight "charity" experiement knocked out the site in Yahoo & MSN. why would anybody want to take that risk with their own site? Maybe you can point it to my competitor..
I am down. I just reg'd a couple of domains that I am testing some other stuff on. I can grab another one, as I was thinking about doing a third where the variable would be using the coop on the home page. Good timing I guess.
For some of us losing one site (esp. a new site) to gain knowledge is an easy trade to make. I'm familiar with the charity experiment. It shows potential danger but it isn't enough information to determine a cause and effect relationship. About 6 months ago I lost a very profitable site by pointing 250k ad network weight at it. Couldn't cry because the site was only profitable due to the coop in the first place At any rate I have sites with more than 10k weight pointing at it as do many others I'm sure and they haven't been dropped. I also have my own networks with static and rotating links that would equate to much more than 25k in ad network weight pointing at successful sites whose serps have not been negatively affected. The only thing I have concluded thus far is that the coop is one piece of a very complex puzzle (damn those phd's that work for the se's! ). Many more experiments are required. I agree it would be too big a risk to point 25k at a prized-possesion website that relies on serps traffic.
I tried reading that experiment thread but there were too many pages to wade through.. What was the end result of the experiment? Would it be possible for someone to post a "results" thread\page somewhere..
*yawn*... here we go again with the old "coop is evil and wil get you banned" BS. I am pointing 40k to a site right now, feel free to point all the weight you have at it and try to get me knocked out...
Fryman, that is not why I am doing it and I am pretty sure that is not why Nitin is doing it. Don't worry, be happy...you are a Brit now!
I'm not saying you are doing it, what I am saying is that most people don't understand that search engines use hundreds of variables in order to rank a site. And if their ranking sudenly drops, they just blame it on the coop.
Very well summarized. I would like to add that Yahoo is where my curiousity is right now. They really don't represent much referring traffic anyways, but one of my sites that had a fair amount of COOP weight was banned from Yahoo recently. So I am also trying to put the peices together. My own experiment included removing ALL coop weight from this site and replacing it with static links: So far 1) Yahoo continues it's ban on this site. 2) Google serps haven't changed but PR update was unbelievable yesterday. I have 100's of PR6 pages on this site. The largest PR increase applied to pages I had many static links pointing to. 3) MSN has this site in the top ten for many keywords/ keyphrases. Prior to the link strategy change MSN serps were slowly declining. Nitin M, I appreciate the offer and genuine purpose you have in mind. I Agree with your logic in putting the many pieces together. I will continue to submit any observation I make w/o COOP weight at the same time I look forward to hearing from those using COOP weight...It's all good .
Thanks Homer. As an update, Chachi and I are going to work through several test cases. We've decided to not post details on the tests just because we'd like to keep the tests "pure" and not have outside links make an impact. But, we'll certainly post the results as soon as we have something worthwhile to share.
Sounds good. I suspect you will find COOP weight with brand new sites will perform miracles as you are basically starting from the bottom with only 1 way to go. I have heard rumors that COOP weight breaks the G sandbox effect? I have not experimented with this aspect of Coop weight. I hope your experiments test this theory. It would be amazing if that was the case. Good luck with your testing Chachi and Nitin
I keep getting sites ranking in yahoo for terms, but they all come form ads I made after the big update I'm not sure if they will disappear in a minute or what
no they are new sites or old sites that wern't making much $ so I threw some affilate datafeeds on them and put some coop weight like < 3000
It seems Yahoo has a magic number (weight) for a site. In the DP ranking experiment one might assume 10,000 was too much. It looks like 3000 is OK. I am sure there are other factors here as well.
I believe that if multiple links with varying anchor text are pointed to the subject page, banning won't be a problem. Internal links may also help avoid raising algorithmic flags.
wtf? let me get this straight. Nice man comes along and says I have a big co-op weight and am curious if donating it to your domain for 60 days (ish) will be any good for you. And then a heap load of people come along and say nah, wont work, will get you banned. I believe the original post was for any NEW sites, so as they arent in any se's yet, they cant be banned. So next objection, "nah thanks, wont work". How do you know? The whole point of this thread is that its an EXPERIMENT. Big important word - meaning to test something out, to see what the impact of action "a" is on site "1" where action "a" = big donation of free multiple inbound links and site "1" = brand new site which has nothing to lose. Honestly, some people. Anyway, long story short, it looks as if site "1" has been found, and the results will soon be here for all to see, and no doubt will cause quite a lot of self-kicking in certain quarters. If by any chance site"1" would like to be accompanied by any other sites, I have a domain which has been in existence for 2 years but never developed, and I am looking to develop it in the autumn, so if you would like a second guinea pig, I am available! To the ne'er do wells, your intentions are probably quite correct, but for god sakes get some positivity around here peeps. Give this generous (and curious) guy a break and wish him well with the trials - his experiment may lead to some valuable knowledge which you may well have a use for at a later date....