This wikipedia thing needs to stop

Good points as well.

 

I think that the power of WIKI is far over-rated, much like the power of DMOZ. Though, if you look at all the older references (and still many current ones) they will tell of the SEO benefits of both sites.

What we as web masters need to do is stop telling people to use such things, and when we use them ourselves we need to treat them like they treat us.

Here on Digital Point there is a handy little vB Code that is often overlooked: [url][/url]] With that we can talk about Wiki all we want too and we will not be compounding our own problems. If you are on another forum that does not offer the NOFOLLOW code, then you can still use [plain][/plain] which will place the url as text rather then a link. (I discuss both methods in more detail here).

Though, as for whether or not WIKI is worthy...I find it rather handy, but will often find more primary sources, especially if trying to back up any claims I've made.

 

are wiki external links now 'no follow' ??

 

Have been for months... Catch up..

 

some times wiki irriates as it seen whenever you search something but its quite useful when you need quick small information about something

 

The thing with wiki is that it is nothing really special. It has got where it is in Google because it has just got a good internal linking system plus it has done alot of advertising and gained some good backlinks. If anysite had done that it would get good rankings in Google. The reasons if ranks for alot of different keywords and phrases is because it has lots of different pages on many different subjects with internal links pointing to nearly, if not every page.

 

I happily link to Wikipedia when it has a page that is worth linking to.

Is it competition in the SERPS too? Yes. that just means I need to do a better job of presenting the content in a unique way or providing value that they don't (thus getting links that would go to them, and ranking higher).

 

I don't really care, wikipedia has helped me with researching so long live wiki!

 

some times its used as SPAM

 

Wikipedia is good for my site. I put a link on wiki and now 70% of my 800 unique visitors comes from Wikipedia.

 

I think that the people moaning here would not be moaning if their site was ranked where wikipedia is ranked today.

How I see things, yes it can be annoying, but they are just doing seo a little better than use, the people who rank lower than them.

 

who funds wiki

 

We do. We write content for them and the delete our links, we do some of their seo by linking to them.

Yep we fund them the content and some seo.

Moneywise, I'm not sure.

 

See - this is bullshit.


Google Query for Cadillac


The wiki page now outranks the cadillac.com page. Tell me how the hell the qiki page can be more relevant?

 

As a 3rd party site it's less bias

Though, Google here is showing it as 3rd in the serps under two Cadillac.com sites.

 

I don't think Google is specifically giving weight to Wikipedia....Its just that Wiki follows almost all of the SEO guidelines....tons of incoming links....great internal linking.....updated frequently....great content.....outgoing links were regulated even before they implemented the nofollow.....

In fact for a new site I am launching...I am studying Wiki and trying to mimic some of their strong points

 

There is no way wiki has a better content than a local website. For my keyword my site has more than 200 pages on a subject and wiki has 1 page.
Some of the staff on wiki is simply inacurate.
In the last update google gave to much weight to sites with high pr and thousands of pages.

In the end of the day search engine should give the most relevant results and the giant websites are in the majority cases not most relevant.

Hope google will address this soon, as they shot themself in the foot on the last update.....

 

I do think they may be trying, though I expect it to get worse before getting better. Then I expect it to jump up and down like a two year old jacked up on sugar while they iron out the finer points.

Keep the faith *smirk*

Though, first they need to figure out how to deal with all us webmasters and our link selling :lol:

 

What they need is to pay more attention to anchor text, site theme and page theme. No encyclopdia shouldranke tops for so many keywords - not over sites that specialize in just that topic.

 

It does have alot of back link and people also use wiki for the information it provides.