This does not relate to the same topic of that post so I will not revive it but link to it again. It was brought up by Rob in another thread and here it is. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=182395 I started to graze through it and immediately got sucked in. The topic did not really matter to me it was from Nov 2006. What became instantly apparent was this. Here are directory owners working together and sharing information to help each other. They would return to give updates on how it was affecting them. Maybe - just maybe we could all go take a read through it and try to notice that there is no name calling, no sarcasm or attitudes, no arguing about whos toys are better. These are adults conversing about topics that may help others with their projects. I am not saying that I am without guilt, but maybe we can all reflect just a little on why many of those people in that post are no longer here and what all of us can do to make this directory forum just a little bit better than what it seems to have turned into.
I applaud your attempt here. I just realized that a thread that has only relevance to directory owners (the one regarding coding shenanigans) has been moved to the black hole of DP - general conversations. Thanks to the old and tired battle and self-promotion of a few, the thread has been closed and the warning will no doubt be missed by anyone who should see it. I would love to see a stop to the trend of turning every thread where a real issue has been raised into a promotional opportunity for a competing product or agenda. It does little to help the original poster nor the community at large. The snide "oh my ________ doesn't have that problem" only takes the thread off-topic and often leads to the original question never being answered. It's easy to see why that thread you mention went along so smoothly, just look at the date.
I have to agree, years ago seemed to help each other on these forums, now because this is one of the busiest forums people seem to think you can make or break a script / idea / marketing plan / etc on these forums when in reality people on this forums in the directories area don't realise they are just making things worse for themselves. many people who know what they are talking about do not even post in the directories area nowadays because of the immature nature of the users having to move every thread to my dads bigger then your dad thread. If everyone just sat back and looked at how they have been behaving and started to post constructive posts which would actually help people then the stupid 1 liners which are so frequent nowadays, I am sure this would be a better resource for everyone. Thanks aubenrey
Would any one stick their neck out and say a better moderated forum could go a long way to sorting a few problems ? if not i will. It simply is the worst moderated forum i have been / am involved with and probably why many good people have left. just ask them they will tell you all the same story. But i also understand that it is not my forum and the owners must run it as they see fit and there fore one grins and makes the most of it.
I know that the mods dont follow these issues alot, but you have to understand that this is a huge forum and the mods dont have the time to look after each little problem because honestly, about every thread in the directory forum has members trying to promote his own directory/script by thrashing others. just my 2 cents
I appreciate your views and respect them, but really can not buy it. I have / am involved / moderated in forums pushing 10 - 20 times the posts this directory forum pushes and there is very little to no drama's, why the mods are all over anything that is wrong, and people learn real quick to toe the line. something that is missing here.
Things were a lot different back in 2004 when I joined. It was quite professional then and all the major directories of the time had representatives who checked the topic regularly assisting and answering questions. You can basically only blame moderators for a topic to be taken over by a handful of pompous asses and self promoters. I don’t find the topic to be of any significance anymore but do find it to be a great source of amusement.
I've said that a few times myself here at the forums and here: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=894824 And if you do happen to report a post (as I was told to) nothing happens.
Another reason might be that the mods dont get involved in discussions as often as in the past. Nowadays, unless you broke a rule, the mods wont get involved. And I dont know if anyone noticed, but the mods that used to be around before dont come online anymore.
That post was about a directory I just bought. If I ever buy another directory (not likely) I will search DP to learn about the site history.
I'm definitely one of those guilty of allowing himself to get sucked in to petty squabbles and I'm man enough to admit it as I wear my heart on my sleeve and don't tolerate fools, of which there are sadly quite a few on here, certainly more than there were back then from what I read. That said I plan on ignoring the taunting from certain quarters from now on, it just is not worth stooping to that level.
I wandered into the deepest pit in the place last year, DPs Dmoz Forum, and admittedly got sucked up in the dog-eat-dog nature of the place. Not long ago I got out of the forum-war hobby after someone showed me the wisdom of doing so. Turns out the world really CAN still turn without my opinions thrown in liberally (who knew?). Now I just wander in occasionally to ask or answer a question or two, but playing games is left to those with time on their hands. Treating the other residents of a forum with a little professional courtesy goes a long way. Glad to see this thread in here. Rep given.
I participate in a few other forums and can tell you that they are much more professional. What I think would solve most of the problem here is to make the signature and content links nofollow. Then maybe there will be less self interest and more of an effort to help and get help from others.
Bruce, I'm really happy you chose to pick up on the thread I cited, while trying to help out another in a totally different thread. To me, It just goes to show that by helping one another in one instance, it can definitely have a multiplying factor. One of the reasons I am still here to this day is because I know serious minded people still exist in this forum. However deep it may go, they are there. Let us hope that with the recent removal of a particular entity everyone here can now be entitled to their own opinion(s) without having to receive constant badgering and/or threats via PM.
That was exactly where I saw that post Rob and I am glad you posted it. It was while reading that thread it hit me as to just how different it was then vs now. The hostility that seems so show up so frequently lately was absent in that older thread and in its place were some adults discussing a topic that could help others back then. Hopefully though things can change for the better going forward, at least if those of us participating in this forum want them to.