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Old Nov 20th 2006, 2:59 pm
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Fraudulent Directory Submitter - Dirmania.org and Webdesignoffice.us

I just wanted to warn fellow directory owners of a fraudulent submitter I keep getting.

I keep getting paid submissions for the urls dirmania.org and webdesignoffice.us. What happens is that someone pays to submit these sites then a few days later paypal puts a hold on the funds saying that they are investigating. After the investigation, the funds are reversed.

Then, the sites get re-submitted with a different paypal address and the process repeats itself.

This has happened across several directories, and several times for each directory - it's not a one-off occurrence.

I did a search of the archives and turned up this thread:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=125320

Although the scam was different, it does seem that the owner of these urls is less than completely honest.

Don't bother approving these urls.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:06 pm
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It's really sad to see paypal being used to easily for something like that. Thanks for pointing him out!!
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:07 pm
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:14 pm
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Thanks for the heads up.
Will keep this in mind if it happens to me.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:19 pm
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Jeff thanks too for the heads up
Let's keep working together to assist all genuine Directory Owners
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:19 pm
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So, we're talking about webfreak80 here?
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:30 pm
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Alive Directory was gettng them too, for the same site.

Thanks for the heads up to everyone else.


you must spread some Reputation around before giving it to onlinedude again.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 3:37 pm
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Thanks - will ban the domains ahead of time.
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Yes, same received on two directories. Definitely not a directory to do business with, it would seem.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 4:12 pm
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Thanks Onlinedude!

I've put some filters on these. The warning is much appreciated.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 5:54 pm
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Thanks,
Really stupid guy, to submit using fake credit cards or other form of fraud.
You just take the link out on reversal, he gets the link for 1 week.
Really stupid.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 7:57 pm
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Thanks Jeff..
I'm going to ban this directory
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Thanks onlinedude (Jeff) for inform us regarding this. Will take care of it.

BTW when i search this in DP then i found this dirmania.org link in DP user webfreak80 signature so maybe he knows the owner of this directory.

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Old Nov 20th 2006, 11:42 pm
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Well, he claims to be Roberto Duran and recently bought a frontpage featured link at www.permalinks.org

And yes, the funds are now held by paypal currently.

Upon personally contacting him, he says that he has spend a good sum on advertising in a short period...so paypal has put a hold on the transactions made by him. He has faxed his papers to paypal for verification.

PayPal sent me a mail regarding the hold and asked me to furnish details about the transaction to make the review process faster. I did so and waiting for it.

BTW, he is not using credit card or echeck...but paypal balance to fund this transactions. In my PayPal account history, I see the payment sender's name matches with the one in his email id...so, lets see how this goes.

Also I dont think prebanning someone for the sake of a suspected scam is any good...what will you lose if the payment is reversed ? Just take the link off... I think that's a good business practice.
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I have the same issue going on with this guy submitting to www.bestdirs.com . PayPal froze the funds and investigating the case. I'll just remove his link and done deal. I will also forward PayPal to this thread so they know whats going on.
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Old Nov 20th 2006, 11:49 pm
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I just sent him a mail to check this thread and clarify whats going on...
Let's see if he replies.
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I also added negative itrader for him.
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Also I dont think prebanning someone for the sake of a suspected scam is any good...what will you lose if the payment is reversed ? Just take the link off... I think that's a good business practice.
I have no problems with anyone being proactive and pre-banning someone with a past history of scamming others.
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Old Nov 21st 2006, 7:56 am
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This happens regularly and I normally wouldn't bother posting about it. This guy just sticks out because it has happened repeatedly, across several directories plus more than once to the same directory.

I get a similar scam all the time and it is frustrating that paypal allows it. I mean, if someone really used your paypal funds without authorization, why did you they use the funds to submit your own website to a directory? Let me get this straight - they stole your money and used it to help you? GRRRRRRR.
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