Israel offensive on Gaza that has killed more than 100 Palestinians

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by zangief, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #121
    Does Hamas even deny it? Where do you think Hamas is launching rockets from?

    Hamas is not protesting saying to Israel "we are launching missiles at you daily but from somewhere else. You are attacking the wrong positions."

    The whole problem is that Hamas is a terrorist group without uniforms operating in a civilian area in violation of International law. That you are questioning the most basic facts shows you are not serious, you just want to blame Israel.
     
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  2. iggysick

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    #122
    I don't speak for other side too. History of world is full of examples where two sides made peace after bloody wars and I am first hand witness of one of those wars. There was (and still is) so much hate between two sides participated in war in my country and there was so many blood and war crimes commited but now we have peace so it is possible.

    So far I never seen Israel willing to return all occupied territories no matter would they get those guarantees you're talking about.

    If you think that peace is possible without Israels withdrawal from territories I must say that you and everyone else who thinks that is deadly wrong. Just check daily news from that area for last 40+ years and you'll see what I mean.
     
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  3. SecureWebDev

    SecureWebDev Active Member

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    #123
    I blame isreal for dead palestinian children. I blame hamas for dead isreali children.
    and you still have not backed up what you said with proof.
     
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  4. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #124
    Following or violating the international law.. I think bringing that in front is the very last arguement that'd give you an upper hand in this debate, actually, in any debate.
     
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  5. browntwn

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    #125
    For the sake of argument let's assume each position is correct.

    IF Hamas IS firing missiles at Israel from civilian buildings:

    Would you agree that if Hamas is firing missiles at Israel from populated areas that they are responsible for inviting the responsive attack on those positions?

    IF Hamas IS NOT firing missiles at Israel from civilian buildings:

    I have no problem saying that if Israel is attacking civilian buildings that have nothing to do with the Hamas missile attacks on their citizens, Israel would be wrong.

    It is not hard to have a consistent position. The question is do you? Can you admit that the Hamas tactic, if true, of firing on Israel from populated areas of Gaza leaves Israel no choice but to defend itself by attacking these Hamas positions in spite of the fact they might result in civilian casualties?
     
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  6. iggysick

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    #126
    Please stop showing how ignorat you are. Do you believe that when Hamas men fire rockets on Israel very same minute Israel targeting same rocket crew? Only ignorants like you are can claim that.
    Firing rockets from buildings?!? Are you serious?!? :rolleyes:
    Learn something about rockets and buildings before saying such nonsense!
     
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  7. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #127
    What Israel does is called collective punishment and it only worsens the matter.

    Collective punishment is the punishment of a group of people as a result of the behaviour of one or more other individuals or groups. The punished group may often have no direct association with the other individuals or groups, or direct control over their actions. In times of war and armed conflict, collective punishment has resulted in atrocities, and is a violation of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions.
     
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    #128
    i am not trying to satisfy hamas.i think if a good solution is reached they either have to come on board or will lose their popularity.
    as far as protection for workers are concerned arab league or UN or EU can provide some assistance.
    belive me there is a peacefull solution for all the issues, but these guys are only trying to blame each other and that is it.
    by the way if obama picks bloomberg for vp he will win the presidency.
     
    pizzaman, Mar 5, 2008 IP