RichUser caught redhanded trying to sell domains that he does not own!!

We feel that it is prudent to point out to all other domainers to be made aware of a certain user in our midst, namely: RichUser.

This individual was caught redhanded in the Domain Marketplace section trying to sell a domain name, namely AGX(dot)com for $1400 which he was not the owner of.

Via pm, I asked him to give me an assurance that he was the rightful and legal owner of this domain name which he could not do. He was also most insistent that the money had to be paid via Moneybookers and not Escrow Sedo which we were insisting upon for obvious reasons. We offered too, to pay the Escrow fees, yet still he said no, the deal had to be conducted via Moneybookers only. This raised our suspicions very high, since no high value transactions by anyone in their right mind would be conducted through anything else, but Escrow.

Straightaway we conducted a Whois check on the name in question, there then followed telephone calls from the UK to Australia, to a company there to inquire whether their name was for sale. The answer came back in the negative. I have spoken personally with the rightful owner, who is also a member here at DP since.

Obviously we both are not altogether very happy about this situation as blatantly, this individual, 'RichUser' was trying to make a deal based entirely on fraud.

I/we are now considering taking further action against this individual.

Please in the interests of everyone in the domaining community stay away entirely from this user.

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Just received a pm message, he's now asking me to retract my negative feedback that I left for him, on the grounds that it was not him that tried this scam. He is saying that his account was hijacked by a scammer.

Yeah roighttt on mate and I was born yesterday.

So, if he is to be believed, what incredible timing. Gets caught redhanded in a most spurious deal, offering a high value name of which he isn't the owner and on getting found out, immediately afterwards within 2 minutes literally, tries to spin the angle that right at that second, he managed to get his account back again, Wow! What incredible timing.

Again, I've asked him for proof of this and for a mod to confirm his story. The chances of this happening at precisely the same moment at being caught is indeed millions to one.

All I'm asking is that users beware of this individual offering any domain names at all, absolutely make sure that he is most definitely the rightful owner first before conducting any business with him. I'm writing this for the good of the community as a whole, so that others do not part with their hard earn't cash and receive nothing at all in return.

Many thanks.

Mark Magawr

 

Great observations and great post. However, I don't feel like jumping to conclusions so we'll see the results within a few days.

 

so true unfortunately http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=680181

 

That's fair enough.

I noticed that you were the other poster in the thread in question expressing an interest.

Thankfully, no-one parted with any money since by his very communication in pm, suspicions were raised highly enough for further checks to be made about the supposed deal.

If this had happened to a less experienced domainer, right now, they could have been hundreds of dollars out of pocket with nothing at all to show for it. Just pleased that didn't happen.

All the best!

Mark Magawr

 

Yep, glad no one got scammed successfully though. That was a stupid idea, dealing a lots of dollars for moneybookers and NO, I was not interested with the domain, just happened to pass by there.

 

I have nothing else to say, I already gave my side of the story, which can very easily be proven by the mods. I have over 1k posts and over 40 positive itraders.Earlier I did feel sorry in realizing that you almost got scammed, but now I don't give a damn. You will get 2 point infraction for this thread. The negative itrader will drop since you cannot leave an itrader without being in transaction, which you weren't. Everyone on dp knows me. The last thing I would do is scam someone. You can be an a attention seeker as much as you want , but you won't bring me down for false allegations.

 

The keywords here being:

"Earlier I did feel sorry in realizing that you almost got scammed, but now I don't give a damn."

So, you got caught redhanded but now you think it was the people you were trying to scam, will get the infraction points?

Care to explain how that works?

Handing RichUser a shovel.

 

RichUser if you didn't create that scam thread, then why the mods didn't delete it? That thread looks bad since the mods decide to lock it and not delete it instead...

 

I would ask them to delete it, but once a Thread has posts, it can't be deleted that easily.

 

A mod can delete the thread/posts, I've seen it done many times before.

 

No magawr. After reading the PMS, seemed that you almost got caught. Based my feelings on that. You get infraction when you slander a member.

Windtalker, threads are never deleted, they can only be closed incase of something.

 

To be honest the thread in question, to maintain complete integrity to the whole community is best being left exactly as it is, deleting it would only muddy the waters further. And since both the original owner of the domain in question and myself have talked via pm about police involvement for fraud, again deleting it, would just make things more difficult.

If RichUser honestly thinks that I/we are going to be taken in by his story that his account got hijacked and somehow he magically, just got it back at the precise same moment we found out the name wasn't his to sell, well, he must think some professional domainers around here and on other key domaining forums are totally stupid.

If he doesn't appreciate my words written above, then sue me for libel. The fact remains that he brought this entire situation upon himself.

Either he provides the proof now that his account was stolen by a hacker as he stated in pm, or he shuts up completely.

Lets see what happens.

He's got the shovel, let's see how deep he wants to dig the hole for himself.

 

Slander defamation is the spoken word, libel defamation is the written word.

 

I believe RichUser has had his account stolen for a while, but the hijacker has chosen to strike at a later time to avoid detection.

He's telling the truth, believe me.

 

Thanks for the terminology correction. The best prove I can show is email screenshots. I can post those tomorrorw since I'm on my iPhone right now and its almost 12 am.

Please understand that I am not afraid of you
reporting to the police. I did nothing wrong, I didnt post up that selling thread. I didnt try to scam anyone. I
Have nothing to be afraid of.

 

Well, lets see proof of it then.

This seems to be a reasonable request, would you not say so, let an Admin show proof that his account was stolen and that it was not RichUser making this thread earlier about the domain name in question.

Until then, you have to admit, this whole situation sounds extremely fishy.

For now though, based on my/our personal experience with him and the facts as they stand, what other conclusion can be drawn from this?

If his account indeed has been hacked by someone else, then I feel sorry for that particular person when we all catch up with him/her, but right now, given the sequence of events and communications exchanged, you have to admit it doesn't exactly look good for RichUser.

Certainly, rather than being obtuse and difficult, if what he is stating is true, you would think that he would be bending over backwards like us, to get to the bottom of this matter.

Again, let's see the proof that his account was hacked and that this thread was not made by him, at this point I will delete my negative for him if possible and offer him a personal apology, which I am sure he would be pleased to accept, for certainly he would understand the position too, that we are in as well.

Proof is what we need that his account at precisely this moment was hacked and compromised. This is a question of fraud afterall. The original owner of the domain in question is non too pleased either and I'm sure would like to get to the bottom of this. Too, not only has my time been wasted this evening, money too on international telephone calls, but my client too has had his valuable time wasted, which reflects badly on my own business.

Mark Magawr

 

I'm sorry, screenshots won't cut it. Proof is needed by the admin of this forum that your account was hacked as you state.

Also please stop sending me pm messages, it is better now that this situation remains transparent. I have requested something like three pm's ago that you stop sending me further messages.

Now either put up the proof as requested or don't, the choice is yours.

I do not think there is anything further to be said on this issue.

It is up to you to provide the proof as requested and to put that up here in this thread. One would hope that you would accomplish this as expediently as possible.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=680319 Original owner, legal owner of the domain in question.

 

I will have no problem posting up email proof as soon as I get on a computer. Hopefully a mod can back me up in regards of the different ip addresses used to post the scam threads.

 

I never heard of a proxy address. Must be some new fangled thingermejig out there, who knows?

Proof is required from admin, nothing more and certainly nothing less.

 

Then in what shape or form do you want the proof to be.