Gay Marriage: Should It Be Allowed?

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Should gay marriage be allowed?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #601
    Either you live in a highly homosexual part of town (wonder why) or this "sometimes" is once or twice a year.

    Why should it be "private"? What they do is perfectly legal and as such they shouldn't have to keep it any more private than you keep your sexuality. I take it you don't try to hide your heterosexuality, do you?

    There is no practical non bigoted aspect because it's nothing to do with you where some other guy puts his penis. If i were your kids i would be far more worried about my dads obsession with other men's genitalia, poo and anus' than i would be about the occasional gay pride march.

    You seem to have spent a lot of time thinking about what happens during gay sex.
     
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    #602
    What is your fixation with anus!! really It's quite distrubing!! EEEEW
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #603

    First: if it happens once a decade it's still disgusting and disturbing to kids, having to explain what the sodomites are all about.

    Second: about it not being private because it's legal. When I go to shit in a toilet there are doors. Shitting is a very natural thing and yet you do it in the "private" room. It even says when you turn the knob "private". So if shitting should be done in private and not made the subject of discussion, much less should be discussing a more disgusting subject such as sodomy.

    Third: read above point one. It's the sodomites shoving it in everyone's faces.

    Fourth: I like calling a spade a spade. Last i checked sodomy wasn't about having a nice garden or about flying kites. You can try and sanitise it all you want and present it as something else, but the fact remains it all revolves around a body part designed for exporting activity.
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #604
    Yes, but if a guy falls in love with a girl, they can marry... If he falls in love with a guy, he cannot... And because he can't marry, he's not able to receive a few federal benefits that come alongside marriage...
     
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    tarponkeith Well-Known Member

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    #605
    So, in your opinion, true love is nothing more then skin-deep? If you've got to be messed up to fall in love with someone of the same sex, you're saying that "love" isn't a deep connection, but rather the ability to have intercourse?
     
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    #606
    Just tell them it's a street parade. Though I'm sure you wouldn't be able to resist talking about anus' and poo again, it seems to be your reason for living.

    What's your point? You aren't even making any sense, You make these tenuous comparisons.

    Just ignore them, You cry baby.

    If you don't like the idea of anal sex then don't do it, but i still can't figure out what makes you think you are entitled to have an opinion on others doing it.
     
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    #607
    Finally understand the obsession. Thanks, Sigmund. Anal Fixation

    The singular detail seems to be the Might Anus, so holy moly, we're talking Uber-Anal-Fixation, right?
     
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    #608
    Uh - feeling the fever to explain to children anything of the details of sexual practice seems, uh, just a bit dicey?. Wrong, at least by my standards.

    Yep, it would be disturbing to kids - who are, I dunno, better off being given love, played with, nurtured, you know, the wacked out stuff - but screw it, dammit: even if it isn't appropriate for children, I'm learning 'em ANUUUUUSSSSSSS!
     
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    #609
    I can't remember the last time I participated in a gay (anal) pride march. Oh, I remember: NEVER. I played several sports in the past (boys teams) and went in different excursions. As boys we had some social interaction and that's about it. Maybe this is getting you excited. It's not getting me excited.

    So I had plenty of relationships with a lot of boys and men. I guess I could be gay because we had certain relationships. And yet, how can I tell that I am not gay??? Oh yes, it's because I've NEVER contemplated thinking what would be like?

    So if I am not gay even though I deal with men on daily basis, what makes one gay??? Isn't the thoughts and activities that revolve around one's anus?? A simple yes or no will do.
     
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    #610
    You could extend that logic (if we can call it logic) and say that what makes someone straight is thoughts and activities about vagina's or penis'. We know there is more to straight people than thinking about body parts, Same goes for gays.

    And let's not forget there are plenty of straight people who enjoy anal sex. Unfortunately for your idiotic argument, Gays don't have the monopoly on anal sex.

    And you still haven't answered the question; Why do you insist that you are entitled to have an opinion on what other men do with their penis'?
     
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    #611
    I think the whole point, the Big Lebowski, the Xanadu and the Shangri-La, buddy, is twofold.

    1. I don't know, since I'm not gay. I don't know the percentage of gay males who are into this, or simply the little fella, or what. I just have no idea. Leading to Part Deux, more importantly,

    2. I DON'T FREAKIN' CARE. What other dudes do with their odd little appendage, or their back road, is absolutely not something I give a thin damn about.

    Enough. I'll ask, not that I am hopeful of any kind of a cogent reply, but nevertheless: why the hell do you truly care so much about what others do? A'int you got enough on your plate providing for your family, seeking grace and communion with your God, loving your wife and kids, etc., and dying with the words on your lips, "it was worth it, life?"
     
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    #612
    I think the time has come for proteindude to follow Lot's example (the godly man from the Bible) and get out of Sodom as we all know what happened.
    You got to admire Lot. He kept his way. I see the sodomites are screaming their heads off when you point to the obvious object of their affection (it's not love but an obsession with the body part meant to export poo).

    The point remains: "Born Gay?" even though I don't subscribe to this theory, IT DOESN'T MATTER because "You must be BORN AGAIN"
     
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    #613
    mentioning the bible invalidates your opinions even further.
     
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    #614
    Agreed.

    Quick:

    GLAD Mission Statement; randomly searched gay organization. 247 Words. Mentions of "anus," "rectum," "sodomy" or "gotta hit that anus, every chance I see." 0. Anus/communications ratio, 0%.

    Just a snippet of the man's posts:

    Anus, Anii, Rectum, Sodomy, poo instances: my head hurts. Anus/Communications ratio: who is obsessed, again?

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=482169
    Nice words, buddy - even if from several faiths, do you intend on following that any time soon, or just wearing it like a badge for public consumption?
     
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    #615
    They can if that person is of the opposite gender. Same as heterosexuals. If a hetero-sexual person wants to marry a person of the same gender, that person is just as SOL as the homosexual who wants to do so.

    You're assuming that sexual attraction is the sole basis for marriage. That's not true. People get married for a variety of reasons. To unite families, to obtain legal benefits, to become heirs, etc.

    I know this wasn't aimed at me, but come on. By using gay porn as an insult, you are insuating that being gay is a bad thing, or at least something by which to be ashamed or embarrassed. Weren't you one of the people pushing "equality"??
     
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    #616
    Is that really your argument? That homosexuals can marry if they want to marry someone of the opposite gender?

    I wasn't assuming anything, But as you brought it up i would concede that sexual attraction is an enormous factor in marriages. I would estimate only a very small (negligible) percentage of people who marry aren't sexually attracted to the person they want to marry.

    The point i was making is that a gay man is as likely to want to marry a woman as a straight man is to want to marry a man.

    How was it an insult? I was making the point that people who have such strong opinions on something that is nothing to do with them usually do so in an attempt to disguise their true beliefs. I wouldn't be surprised if the people in this thread who defend homosexuality have never had a homosexual thought, And the ones against watch gay porn on a regular basis, And hate themselves for it.

    Me thinks thou dost protest too much - Ever heard of it?
     
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    #617
    My argument is that this whole issue of same sex marriage has been spun by the Gay Lobby to be an equal rights issue, when in fact it is not, because we all have the same rights and restrictions. I believe I was pretty clear about that.

    By that same logic, you along with all the other liberals who've insulted Proteindude, called him names, etc., must obviously be closet conservative Christians, listening to Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson in secret, and hating yourselves for it.

    Me thinks thou dost protest too much - Yes I have heard of it, and it either applies both ways, or not at all.
     
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    #618
    i think gays can remain together without getting married, wat difference, as such they are not gonna get anything much other then a marrige certificate, so for them is it imp ?

    i think the whole case is that they want to marry since they want to adopt child which is no way gonna be allowed.

    they
     
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    #619
    Ok... First, let's define the term "love":
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/love
    http://www.answers.com/topic/love
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love

    They don't say anything about "man and woman", just the bond...

    So, if a straight person can marry a person they love, why can a gay person not marry a person they love?
     
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    #620
    The "right" that they are looking for equality on is the right to marry the person they love. So that kinda kills your argument dead.
     
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