Maybe I should get in on this. Start up a directory, buy a few links and call me stupid but who in his right mind pays $1,388 for a directory link? Ag sis!
It's about a lot more than a "directory link". For example, take a look at this bidding directory. I have invested thousands. Did I do it for a "directory link"? No. That's only a small part of it. The links there are for traffic, branding/promotion, and other factors more so than the "link". Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying the link cannot be a factor, but it's only one element. What matters is how much the directory is worked on, promoted, and taken care of so that I can be confident that my investment is well spent.
Some times its not only about PR. I pay $159/m to www.searchenginecolossus.com for my Best Internet Resource --and as the backlinks update was somewhere on 29th/30th June -- that links has not even been counted on G backlink update. I'll still keep the link--because it sends me very good traffic --and all of them are of quality (potential clients/submitters) --because only a webmaster would visit that site. The way I saw Bigweblinks traffic ( Chris posted it few weeks back) -- I reckon Aviva is getting huge traffic --all potential submitters from that link. I am so sorry--that I don't have $1400 to dislodge Jeff. I would love that exposure and traffic. Hopefully --oneday I could get a position on BWL
Its more about promotion or talking up the value of the links rather than the inherent value in the link itself.
Excuse me Chris-- but won't it be wise just to ignore un-desired elements? I have started doing so. Regards and Tnx for understanding.
Why Germans buy Toyota cars and Japaneese buy Mercedes? Can't they just exchange? Answer is - no, it won't work.
If 'flying a kite' is running an array of successful directories, then chris is flying a dozen kites. People cannot help it if you see no gains from your endeavors. Try promting like you're suppose to, rather than trying to pocket everything, and you too might see the benefits.
Actually he has a great point there. Reciprocals are discounted by Search Engines big time. I've had my experience with them and finished any type of reciprocal listings in Linkspub, months ago. Big reason for that.
Well let me write something about Bidding directories-- I think it would be nice to follow "Ethical Bid Directories ... Rulz of conduct!" I would like to make a note on the #1 #2 (specially this one) and #3 not that the others are not important. Let me makes this clear: I not accusing anyone, but I would mentioned the names if I have concrete evidence. So please this is general observation that I have seen with bidding directories. To all bidding directory owners, it is counterproductive not to follow some basic rules. These type of directories don't have good reputation in the eyes of many and I'm not surprise that this is the case. Bidding directory owners are shooting themselves in the foot by allowing certain group of people buy spots on their own bidding directory. Not that owners intentionally do it, but doing this creates a negative atmosphere and create distrust for others submitters. Correct my if I'm wrong, but as a potential submitter: 1.Would you like to see that same owner has its own listing on the first page of his bidding directory 2.Would you like to know that high bidders know each other and sometimes talk between other very often? 3. I can list other, but these two would be enough. For sure you will find reasons to contradict my points, but is not about me or you is About the Future of Bidding Directories. Is about how to change the bad perception of bidding directories. If I had the same type bidding directories as most of you have, I would: 1. not accept other bidding directories 2. not accept my friends sites 3. not accept my own listing (No exceptions) I'm pretty sure you can find other means to accommodate you own listing and friends without putting your bidding directory in question. What's the future of bidding directories and what's their purpose? Well, that's another subject. Whether you want to spend $5 or $1,00,000 for pr, traffic, or whatever is up to you. I guess bidding directories have their hands full and I must say they need to do something to improve their reputation very quick.
A lot of them would be very empty if they did that. But that would do a lot to change the negative perceptions around this type of directory. When bidding directories collectively all promote on other bidding directories, it looks a lot like a closed network, excessively crosslinked. Not accepting the listings of your friends or your own sites would clear a bidding directory of the suggestion of unfairness. We all like to think it's a level playing field. I'm on the fence as to whether or not this is an ethical issue: it's a webmaster's right to put up whatever links he or she wants on their pages. But that right obviously clashes with the best way to offer something that appears predictable and transparent.
what is the talk about reciprocal being devalued?? I know this isn't really the SEO thread but if google.com (PR 10) gives me a link to a PR5 site and I decide to link back, then the link of google.com would be devalued? I don't think so.. Anyway, to answer the OP, I think it's not really the PR that people look for when buying links. Don't get me wrong, I would probably look at the PR first, but the next thing would be if the traffic is worth the money invested. And that is that, buying $x,xxx links is an investment, which people hope to profit from in the next few months/years.
1. Well their went a big chunk of promotion money for your bidding directory. (as if you havent noticed its mostly all directories owners on the front pages) 2. I agree as i know one that have their best friend up top with $100 bid and thats why i wont submit cause the price was inflated 3. If i want to add my directories in my own bid directory i will as they are all set at $1 and the minimum is $1 so i dont see it making a difference.. I must say that what surprised me was when a Site came out of know where and dropped $3 Gs heheheheh ( I know robb probably about shit himself ). This was the real deal as those sites have money to pay for featured reviews lol laterz malcolm1
Glad to see that you are beginning to see which way the wind is blowing and to get the drift, where these things are concerned. Unfortunately you cant duck these sort of questions. We are not all stupid and neither is anyone dishonest. Whats the problem? How many small people get hurt when these paper empires you build get blown away? Its perfectly obvious that you can see it all coming and that you just move on to the next project. But what about the drones like this one? The guys that are left out there batting for you on a sticky wicket. All he succeeds in doing is making an ass of himself . Dont you incur some obligations, some responsibility? I am also sure that you know what pyramid marketing is all about. Whats the difference between what you are doing and something that has been declared illegal in many countries? Who is going to be left holding the lemon this time? Time to wake up and smell the roses sunshine.