DMOZ submission process flaws - howto stop your competitors site from entering

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by adnan, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #21
    We, the ex-editors are like freedom fighters trying to end the oppression brought about by the evil Meta-Machine. We all know too well the importance of The Project and many of us have sworn to fight for justice no matter the cost.

    We keep a constant vigil looking out for the poor masses such as yourself that have been blinded by the lies and propaganda brought about by the sycophant administration and will comment and reply where ever we see such ill conceived notions that the way things are, are as they should be.

    The cover of deceit needs to be lifted so that a level of transparency can be seen, so that all editors can edit freely without fear of retribution or backstabbing.
     
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  2. inmean

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    #22
    well i'm editing for a world category i don't care about what submit and how your submit i only approve based on the contents of your website.
     
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    #23
    Jeez, you have been watching too many batman films. Its just the a directory we are talking about. Next you will be designing super hero costumes. Perhaps you could be super directory man.
     
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  4. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #24
    I love my community and am passionate about it. Possibly a bit over dramatic at times, but then, without people like me, would there be a debate from either side? I mean, you must have some passion of you'd never have bothered to crawl out from the inner forums to post here among all the trolls ;)
     
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    #25
    Change from the inside is the only way. Some things need change, but we shall get there, without psychotic:eek: ex-editors.
     
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  6. adnan

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    #26


    It maybe SEEM important, but that importance has been diminished greatly by social networking sites.

    And as these social networking sites and other web 2.0 sites continue to rise, that importance will continue to diminish.

    My site is not listed in dmoz but yet still pulls up on the first 25 results of Google, MSN, Yahoo and EVEN your AOL SEARCH LOL LOL.

    Yet my competitors sites are listed but they don't pull up in search engine search results.

    That much is the search engine importance factor of dmoz.


    YOU can achieve the best rankings without being listed in dmoz. :)

    Now goes for the traffic.


    Most of the people visiting dmoz are basically editors, staff or people looking for categories to submit their site.

    Your rsource forum probably has most of it's activity of people inquiring about when will my site be submitted, how to get my site listed, can i become an editor so I can list my site, stuff like that.

    I don't think the number of actual surfers that visit dmoz to look for resources is more then a few percentage points.

    Main reason for that is because of so much crap which is listed in dmoz, people I guess prefer to browse Yahoo directory & JoeAnt and alot of the other directories out there which offer quality content.




    Actually I never wanted to be an editor there. Period. The only reason I applied was to list my site and they said no.

    As for listing my site there, at 1 time I did want my site listed there, but to tell you the truth, dmoz doesn't really deserve to list such a high quality site like mine.

    It is best it keep listing the stuff it has and be happy in this misconception that it is a great directory or resource.



    I'm just trying to open the eyes of potential editors that there is much more productive things which they can achieve with their time rather then waste it in trying to build a dying problem like dmoz.


    Dmoz is pretty much run by AOL Search. Well AOL was saved by Time Warner basically cause they couldn't survive as an ISP because of mismanagement.

    AOL Search is pretty much history, nobody uses it.

    Dmoz is pretty much following in the footsteps.

    It's not easy to manage an organization. Takes alot of skills and right decisions.

    If dmoz had those skills, it would of been a different story.
     
    adnan, Aug 19, 2007 IP
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    #27
    But DMOZ is not interested in which search engine or what the results are, as I have said in another thread. We build the best directory for surfers that we can.

    No interest in webmasters, search engines or indeed how important we are seen. A Directory for surfers.

    You said you wanted to be an editor to list your site, sounds like we made a good choice with the refusal!

    We have more editors than we did 5 years ago, but we still do not have enough to keep the ever increasing tide of submissions and new sites not submitted. But we try in that climate to build the best directory and with the new input from AOL we shall go on being the largest human edited directory, with editor choice for listing not payment and continue to be the best.
     
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  8. adnan

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    #28

    I covered that point in my previous post.

    Nobody surfs dmoz.

    Mainly because the number of quality sites listed is dropping drastically.

    People now have so many better choices to find the resources which they are looking for.

    Yahoo directory by far remains as the directory of choice for a majority of directory surfers despite the rdf data.

    And if you remember Yahoo basically started out as a directory & portal and now is the busiest site in the world.


    So u mention a directory for surfers, however nobody uses that directory of yours to actually surf.

    It's basically are re-run of the AOL fall, which couldn't manage to give the end users the ISP solutions which they wanted and eventually fell to the ground.

    Apparently if the management actually does want to save dmoz, I would suggest handing it over to a company which has the technical knowhow as well as the resources to turn it around.

    Another reason of the dmoz downfall will be this Editor / management misconception which I have just quoted.



    You probably do cause more and more people are seeking that opportunity to make that extra income or profit.


    You might also have alot of duplicate editors like the same person with 4 editor accounts as well cause there are so many ways to acquire proxy ip addresses as well.
     
    adnan, Aug 19, 2007 IP
  9. Qryztufre

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    #29
    Without the "psychotic ex-editor" how long do you think it would have been before the world knew that they ousted CompostAnnie, or got the word out that change was needed? If the traditionalist editors had their way NOTHING would be wrong....as thats still what they are saying. And now that you've said some changes are needed you just better hope your proxy does not give out or they will find you and toss you in with us. As in many cases its the needed changes that never happened that created many of 'us'.

    If you do not mind wallowing in the corruption that is your prerogative...just be careful which side you are calling psychotic.
     
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    #30
    I think the implication is that all editors in DMOZ are scum.

    Well it takes one to know one. But for someone to make such a bizarre generalisation really does show serious psychosis.
     
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    #31
    Not all, but people like you and nebuchadrezzar who defend corruption. Please don't tell me you do it from your goodness of your heart and because you admire pedophiles and corruption. :rolleyes:;)
     
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    #32
    If you really must take my name into your pshychotic mind, check your facts. Now show me corrupt editors, show me any post where I have defended any of the material you refer to. Sorry, mate, don't like people who are liars so this is my last post to you.
     
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    #33
    I have posted the link in other thread but it seems you ignore it.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4179057&postcount=55

    Now tell us what else have you done in this forum, except defending the corruption in DMOZ? If you are asking for proof and have nothing to hide then how about you tell us your editor name, so we can check the log for your edits. ;)
     
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    #34
    Sorry, don't talk to liars
     
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    #35
    It seems you and nebuchadrezzar have the same problem, over estimating your limited brain power and the imagining everyone else is stupid. The game is up, everyone can see who you are and why you defend DMOZ and the corruption. So run along and play with nebuchadrezzar and other scums in DMOZ. :rolleyes:
     
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    #36

    As said to the one you are calling a liar.

    __________

    See everyone, I told you there was hyprocricy in the editing community ;) :p
     
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    #37
    Nah, I'm just out for revenge, like Chuck Norris. :D


    "Change" and "inside" (of DMOZ) in the same sentence!? :eek:

    Have pigs started to fly? :p
     
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    #38
    In nebuchadrezzar and Anonymously world pigs are always flying. ;)
     
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    #39
    I have recently been thinking about building a catapult, strapping wings onto pigs, then flinging them over the city... Do you know how much hat eating there would be if winged pigs flew passed your office window?

    Well, Chuck always played the good guy, so I think that a few round house kicks are certainly in order ;)
     
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    #40
    This reply is from another thread: Get listed in DMOZ FAST!

    I have replied here, as this is the more suitable location for the discussion, as this is the discussion we are having.

    Thank you for showing us all how much you understand the process.

    I've worked in a factory and it took 5 engineers 2 days to figure out how to properly pack the product in the boxes...where it took the person working the line about 20 minutes.

    You are the smart one, I am the dumb one...so please explain how replacing the 5th slot on the list with the 5th slot on the list is going to change the order of me getting to the site?

    Explain to me how an editor that logs in that first week you submit, likes the site so approves it does NOT get the site listed?

    You need hands one in order to actually understand it. You've not seen the process, the code, or had your sites listed... HOW COULD YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE A CLUE?
     
    Qryztufre, Aug 20, 2007 IP