Did Matt Cutts lie to us? Or is this just a coincidence?

Discussion in 'SEO' started by ly2, Apr 16, 2007.

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    Remember when Matt claimed .edu's and .gov's didn't carry any extra weight?
    Then how would he explain this, this, this , or this? Shall I continue? If you look at the bottom of all those SERPS, you will see hijacked .edu pages selling pills online. So if the .edu's don't carry any extra weight, why are they there and why did people choose to hijack them? It appears Matt lied to us :(
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    Hey also, I can't find the blog entry where Matt says the .edu's carrying extra weight is a myth. If anyone has that link, feel free to post it!
    =P
     
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    Did you really expect a google employee, a FOR PROFIT company, to tell you one of the best ways to artificially inflate your SERPS? Whenever something like this gets out where Google gives weight to a particular kind of link, in this example, and SEO's start abusing it, than they have to change how affective those links are... In this case they dont want to do that to .edu's because they SHOULD carry more weight. So if you can get them, get them, but never ever ever believe anything Google tells you :D

    Google = Pure Evil ;)
     
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    He said they don't carry extra weight purely based on the domain name, which is correct.

    If you put viagra spam on the BBC website it would rank highly. Its nothing to do with the tld.

    These edu domains are 10 years old with thousands of natural backlinks.
     
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    I really fell for Matt Cutts being the honest guy. Even though he works for Google, you get the impression he really is only there to give you super secret SEO tips lol

    I will never believe him again :mad:
     
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    So you really don't think that a .edu or .gov tld carries any extra weight at all?
    In other words, a .com and a .edu that were both regged today carry equal weight? I don't believe it.
     
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    Not compared to another 10 year old trusted domain, no.

    The only reason you see them littering the viagra serps is because they are so unsecure that black hats can get content on them. No trusted 10 year old commercial domains are that unsecure.
     
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    You are ruining my conspiracy theory dammit! :D
     
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    It may carry extra weight, but not because of the tld, but because some .edu domain are old and have a lot of good backlink.

    The tld isn't the factor which give weight. imho.

    And yes, I believe everthing else being equal, there is not much difference between a .com and .edu
     
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    Well then what about a .gov?
    .gov's are MUCH harder to get a hold of than .edu's. You can get .edu's easy.
    You don't even think G gives them more weight? I would think since .gov's are watched over much more carefully and much much harder to get, G can feel safe giving them some extra weight. Maybe not, I dunno :confused:
     
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    I don't know about .gov, not so easy to experiment with :D

    For .gov domain, it's possible that Google give them more weight, yes.
    Actually it's sound quite logical to me, they should be considered more reliable by Google.
     
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    Well, of course .govs are MUCH harder... I mean, no one is going to get a link on...

    OMG! ly2! Look, the government is talking about you! THEY LINKED TO THIS POST!!!

    http://www.sbcounty.gov/

    Wow man, better put your tinfoil hat on tight, they are watching you!!!

    -Michael
     
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    LOL, nice

    But .gov TLD are US reserved, .edu are worldwide :
    http://www.uspto.gov/go/tac/notices/guide299.htm
    http://www.educause.edu/edudomain/eligibility.asp

    so, not so easy for everybody...
     
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