Marine admits to killing 18 unarmed Iraqis, says he would do it again

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    An AXX H*** U.S. Marine charged with murdering 18 unarmed civilians in Haditha, Iraq, said in an interview with CBS's "60 Minutes" he regretted the deaths but would make the same decisions today.

    Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich admitted shooting five unarmed Iraqi men in the back in the interview and said his actions were justified because he believed the men had hostile intent toward the Marines.

    "There is nothing that I can possibly say to make up or make well the deaths of those women and children, and I am absolutely sorry it happened that day," Wuterich said.

    "What I did that day, the decision that I made, I would make those decisions again today. Those are decisions that I made in a combat situation and I believe I had to make those decisions."

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    Source Reuters
     
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  2. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I redid some of the red for you...now see if you read the story any differently. Although, knowing you, its only a bad spin that you like to put on the troops....but never a bad word for the terrorists...
     
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    commandos Notable Member

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    Yes i will shoot you and your family in your head because i think you are a danger for the humanity and of course they are justified .

    make sense right ?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    He said they had a hostile intent towards the marines...I probably would have done the same thing...but again, you never can point out the good stuff can you? You always have to spin a story to fit your world of doom and gloom...and anti-USA also...
     
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    commandos Notable Member

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    Anyway he have been charged :D , hope he will pass his life in prison .

    Anothe case :

    Soldier charged in rape considering plea deal

    I think she was also a threat , right ?

    Another A**

    U.S. soldier draws 10-year sentence in Iraq slayings

    What a F***** ARMY , They dont even deserve to wear the uniform , shame on them
     
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    Far from all countries put their own war criminals in jail.
     
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    #7
    You dwell on a few isolated cases. There haven't been very many given the number of US military personnel in Iraq.

    Why not focus on the atrocities being committed by Iraqis upon Iraqis, or by Muslim outsiders upon Iraqis? There are dozens of those incidents occurring daily. We don't line people up and execute them nor do we chop their heads off.

    The US is one of only a very few countries that places restraints upon their military. We need to play by the rules, while the enemy does not. Makes sense, right?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    he would rather blame the US first....in the case of the rapes, they are guilty...no one has ever said that those people were a threat....those soldiers screwed up and should be punished....but the marine who killed those he thought had hostile intent is not in the wrong in my book...those cases are very different, but as we all know, you will do anything to make the usa look bad.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    Shot them in the back? So he couldn't see if they were armed or not - just took a wild stab in the dark that they might be? Ummmm. We wouldn't do that in the British Army - there'd be no-one left in Belfast if we did!
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    Just like the media will do, this guy is already guilty before even being before the court...what ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty by a court of law?" I guess that doesn't matter if you are a liberal, right?
     
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    I don't think it's a matter of being liberal. Commandos is clearly pro-terrorist. I'd like to see him focus on the atrocities committed by the real bad guys. He would have plenty to write about.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    But that would be too easy....next up, he provides the footage from the most reliable source out there...youtube...
     
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    LOL , Ur gov dident arrest me last time i visited the US. , i'm comming soon also for a visit we will see if they will offer me a vacation in gitmo . sick people

    If defending civilian is pro-terrorist ... i'm proud to be so .

    But the problem u dont even know how to define a terrorist .

    All the shit happening in iraq is due to the invading made by the US , nothing like this happened before , not even in saddam time .

    Nice post by Gworld : Annan: Life for Iraqis worse than with Saddam
     
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    I'm going to bookmark this post for future reference....why would the US govt arrest you? Have you tried to blow someone up, or better yet, chopped off someone's head? That is part of my definition of a terrorist, glad that you support them....
     
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    oh I remember this incident very clearly.. It had lot of media coverage at that time. They werent just 5 men "with hostile intent" - most of the dead were women and children.

    The allegation is that one of the marines died in a blast earlier and the marines took the anger out on this group. I cant possibly fathom how trained marines found a group of mostly women and children with no weapons to be "with hostile intent"

    They were ordered to turn around and kneel down first. And then got shot in the back.

    Now I got no problems with US or americans and I dont really care.. but You mentioned about these atrocities occuring daily in Iraq.......let's see,

    - There were 3 million christians living in Iraq before the war. They existed peacefully with the muslims. There were no problems. But after the US invasion - everything is in chaos as you know now.. So, who is to blame?

    Now I usually stay away from war talk on internet..cause 99% of the time - People dont know what they are talking about.. What they know comes from a few clippings on TV and a few articles here and there.. You should talk to the people who live there and have to go through all this..They will tell you the real story..
     
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    ...Right, I get you - shot for not following orders. That makes it okay then :rolleyes:
    I'm not a liberal - far from - but I do spot a recurring pattern here. The pattern of shooting people for tenuous reasons and because it's in 'the heat of battle' it's acceptable. Well, hate to break it to you but under international law it isn't acceptable to shoot civilians merely because you 'think' they might be a threat.
     
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    The hostile intent was the 5 men....its a shame the women and children had to die, but as we know, THEY CONSTANTLY HIDE BEHIND WOMEN AND CHILDREN...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070320203409.spj83omw&show_article=1


    I didn't quote this as you said I did....techevangelist did....proving you wrong....again.
     
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    According to a poll by The Times of London, 49 percent of the Iraqi people believe they are better off today than they were under Saddam; twenty-six percent say they are worse off.
     
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    No, fair play to Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich. If he thought these 5 men had hostile intent and were a threat to his gun-totting Marine colleagues, then he was right to shoot. I do think his skills would be better suited to the circus - it takes quite a mind reader to determine someone has hostile intent when you can't even see their face. How do you do that? Look for frown lines in their crumpled clothing? If he was in the British Army he'd have no defence at all.
     
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    why would they arrest me ? lol because if a stupid agent like TechEvangelist , who say about people defending civilians that they are terrorist ...

    Anything can be done , since they dont care about human rights , what would stop them for jailing , killing innocent people ?

    I only see people full of hate and racism with no morals and conscience .
     
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