Hey, Im just wondering how much value would a site being in DMOZ add? I mean i own a proxy which is listed in dmoz (one of a very small few) i mean surely that on its own is worth a bit?
My opinion is that no one really knows. On one hand we have people willing to pay money for a listing. On the other we keep hearing that it has no more value than any other link. It's a raging debate and passions seem to run higher than they should. You'll get many answers but keep in mind that they're all nothing more than opinion. Personally, I wouldn't stress about it.
The only way to get an approximate value for your domain is to spend $20 at afternic to get it appraised. Any answer here will depend on the viewpoint of the person giving the opinion. My opinion is that if I am selling it increases the value of the domain and if I am buying it has no more impact than any other link. gene
It adds a lot. I'm not sure why theres people even debating about which one is better, DMOZ or Yahoo. Such a simple question people do not seem to want to answer correctly. Believe me, I've been doing SEO for about 3-4 months and I'm already seeing that DMOZ plays a huge role when it comes to SERP's. You get in, you have a shot without needing to invest a lot of money in buying links or content and time for natural links. It helps with your PR also....big time. Can make it go from PR0 to PR 5 in matter of 5-6 months. Of course you can do the dirty work and manually submit to directories that cost money or takes 2-3 months to be listed for free...but why do that if you can get into DMOZ. If anything, DO BOTH if you CAN. As for the value it adds to your site...a bit since a potential investor may know it has a nice amount of backlinks generated from the ODP rdf dump. In the end, that question depends. Cheers.
DMOZ listings are helpful, but SEO work is more than that, and of course your site success it's not on DMOZ hands.
lol....at first I thought that too..I thought DMOZ was everything and that it was the only way it can help you gain an edge on SERPS.... It obviously helps but I realized there are other ways. I don't want to be sending out the wrong message by saying DMOZ is everything like I thought before when I first started SEO. For example, I'm top 5 for three or so keyword phrases I've been trying desperately achieve....all this without a DMOZ listing. So have hope for those who are not accepted.
Dern rep system! minstrel, I'll skip the obvious comment about bunking being more fun than debunking...or will I?
Please read what I posted directly above you. Then, if you still think there's something special about a DMOZ link, provide EVIDENCE.
Its not just one "single" DMOZ link. But getting into DMOZ will allow it to replicate itself through most directories using the ODP rdf dump. This will create many inlinks for your site and eventually increase your PR and help your SERP's. ( as so I read in the article rated 4/5 stars at seochat...http://www.seochat.com/c/a/Web-Directories/Increasing-Your-Traffic-with-Web-Directories/1/ ). Evidence as in a site with a higher pr rank due to DMOZ? I was told not to post this url multiple times, but I'm going to do so again...just so I can show you a little evidence. IF I'm wrong...please enlighten me with the reason why. Go to: http://thestatman.tripod.com/ This site is listed and is PR 5... now goto www.pickspal.com whose not listed and has a pr 3. Now compare the inlinks at Yahoo! Explorer between these two sites..also compare it at Google.com with: link:http://thestatman.tripod.com link:http://www.pickspal.com Now compare the sites quality and amount of content and usefulness for a sports fan. Am I wrong here? Am I missing something? Is pickspal.com doing something so wrong (they have press releases that produce links, they're in several directories, etc.)? What is statman doing so right that he can get a PR 5. I admit, I'm still new to SEO so some of my statements could be totally messed up...but I'm willing to hear it out and perhaps learn something from it. Cheers
That hasn't been true for a long time for DMOZ clones. See duplicate content filter. 1. # of incoming links 2. quality of those incoming links (including transmitted PR, relevance to on-page content. and other factors) 3. What Yahoo Explorer shows you cannot be directly transferred to Google or MSN 4. What the Google link: query shows you is a sample only of the links Google knows about and does not tell you anything about whether or the extent to which those links are devalued or discounted or penalized
Minstrel, thanks for clearing this up for me. However, I'm still not TOTALLY convinced that all these extra clones give no weight what so ever. I mean it has to a little right? Is there any evidence that shows all ODP clones (including Google, Alexa, Excite Dir) gives no juice to a sites PR and SERP's? If Matt Cutts stated something like this in his blog, then I would look at that as some evidence. However I not spot anything when searching his blog. Back to the duplicate content feature. I tried your Google link and realized that the duplicate content filter was primarily for spam sites and/or ecommerce sites that have same product description etc.---I learned this when having to deal with my site's "supplemental results". I did not find any sites stating that the duplicate content filters allow Google's algo to ignore all ODP clone link. I did find a lot of discussions debating whether or whether not the duplicate content filter would decrease the value of being listed inside the ODP. Lol, I even found a site that had you discussing in it stating the same exact duplicate content theory. Thanks for stating this...I just learned something new. Cheers
i have a web site which is listed by dmoz for 1 week . i did not feel any difference being listed by dmoz or not being listed . before getting listed by dmoz , i was getting 3k visitors . i'm getting 3k visitors too
3k a day trich? PS: Dmoz ads about approximately 99.99 Cents. If someone was really wondering about exact number that would be 99.999999 Cents. Regards
No. It's for any page that simply duplicates content from another source. For example, there are numerous sites which simply use news feeds or articles from other sources. Duplicate content filters are intended to apply to those sites as well.