Is Demoz a trap for new webmasters to waste their valuable time?

Thats right, I'm not sure why so many people think you have to have a link from DMOZ. if you have a great site with great content you shouldn't have to worry about a link in the DMOZ directory.

 

Yes. You know so much about being editor or ODP after being editor for 10 days and thinking by your new method of kissing A*S and posting here, you can get access to editing new categories fast.

I have put more than enough proof about corruption in DMOZ in my thread which people can judge by themselves.

The moderator that closed the thread only posted that digital point is not a court but in no way refuted my proofs.

DMOZ has a long history of trying to censor the discussions in regard to DMOZ problems in different forums, so for those of us who has been around more than 10 days, we see things differently. Do you know how many times they offered me listings in exchange for my silence before they knew I was editor?

LOL.

This coming from a guy who tried to buy DMOZ listings and when it didn't work then decided to become editor to list his sites as you posted yourself.

 

It would be wonderful of more and more people became editors... though sadly that does not seem to be happening. I wonder why that is?

Lies? Can I see proof? LOL... you can't give ANY proof can you? All you can do is hide behind confidentiality guidelines.

Caesar1 pointed out that Gworlds threads keep getting locked for a lack of proof... but follow his other threads. It's pretty clear that Scriptlance is selling DMOZ listings. It's pretty obvious that Skrenta's 10K ++ links were automated affiliate listings. We've upheld our end of showing proof... but when it comes to ODP backing up any of their claims they hide behind guidelines that are "just that, guidelines" or result to personal attacks attacking the poster rather then the post...

So if the ODP is not a listing service for it's top editors, then why are there automated listings for their affiliate sites?

If the ODP does not accept payments, then why are there so many links bought and sold through 3rd party sites?

What proof is actually needed? Where are the lies? What "conflicts of interest"
did Ivan show to warrant his removal?

 

Heres the entire thread, to your claim on how easy it is to buy links
The entire thread

 

But you are not denying that you tried to buy your way in?

When you offered to buy the listing and people offered their help there, did you close your bid as "completed"? Many others did, which I think was the point of the thread.

 

It was an inquiry to see if it was possable. I had no plans on buying a link. I needed article submissions and asked some of those who replied to the job, who replied to other jobs by other members who wanted DMOZ listings. they only offered help in the submission proccess or they would submit to something like 300 directories. the point I'm trying to make was just because someone posts a job for a link on the directory and you see replies to that job offer, doesn't mean that the job is done as they posted.

 

You are correct, though it should be safe to assume that when you see something asking for a DMOZ listing, then you see that the job is marked "Completed" and has positive comments like "Fast listing, thanks!" it does, or at least should raise flags. Some of the jobs that are completed, COMPLETED have comments saying that it WAS completed, that would indicate that the person got just what they asked for... an ODP listing.

That is certainly different then asking for help, or to simply be submitted.

 

What a bunch of crap. 15 days ago you were so desperate and furious.

Your site really belongs to you and goes well if thats the one in your sig.

 

Is it possable that they could have done something else like directory submissions to other directories, or that they submitted and it got approved by an editor? I'm just going by my experience and all the replies that I got.

 

I think the same about your user name

 

Mind sharing the link of your scriptlance experience?

 

This was over a year ago on another computer that I gave to my father. I'll see if I have anything on it when I go over there. I don't remember my screan name or the e-mail account I used. everything was changed when I moved to Charlotte, NC from Boston, MA. I had Verizon DSL in MA but they didn't offer that service here so I had to delete that account.

 

Q, why don't you open an account and try for yourself to see what I mean? just remember its for inclusion not a submission, also note it shouldn't take more then a few days.

 

Well, till you can find your example, here is one I randomly found on Scriptlance: http://www.scriptlance.com/projects/1199732018.shtml

Go through the chosen programers reviews till you get to the one for this entry with says " Review: Performed as promised!"

A few more of their reviews for entries dealing with DMOZ:
Review: Very Satisfied, Excellent work A++++
Review: A+

Are they just submitting and getting lucky? Maybe, but this guy is only one example.

 

This discussion discourages me.
I have also invested a lot of time in DMOZ.

 

Yes and most are said to be done 10 days or more, now don't you think if it was an editor it would be done in about 24 hours?

 

Why not become an editor then?

 

Nah, why would it? Editors only need to edit once every three months

 

Well if they are getting $100's of dollars like some claim why would they wait?


Well I think I'm done these discussions, it seems like I'm pounding sand.

 

Because I can find completed transactions of DMOZ listings and you can only offer your word? You are correct, it's like pounding sand....

For every time someone comes along and offers some shred of proof against the ODP an editor comes in with little more then an anecdote to counter.

*shrug*