Hi all, just wanted to make you all aware of a scammer out there. He seems to prowl sedo, ebay and other places looking for damain sellers. Next he sends you an email asking what your price is, when you reply, he says that sounds great pending an apprassal. So what do you do? You get an apprasal done for ~50~$60.00. After the apprasal is done, he informs you that he only wants to help you sell it and that he will get you what you want for it and HE will keep any extra if sold What a jerk. I fell for it, hope fully you will not. His email domain is phreaker.net, I could not get a good whois though so he could be aliasing. Make Sure to use this link in your thread Jeffrey McQueary So others can google this guy!
These scammers are sure crafty. They use a name like Jeffrey McQueary that conveys wealth versus a boring name like Seth Douglas or say David Hansen. Also, they use phrases like PHD or President of ABC and they know NO ONE is gonna actually see if the company even exists. Prey on peoples desire to get rich qucikly. Money isnt that important. Have faith in the Lord and money wont dominate your life and you wont fall for these scams. Jesus saves.
Normally I find everything you say repulsive, but for once you got it right. He actually claims to be a PH D.
Here is our entire email correspondance to date: >>>>>>>TBC Engineering wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I'm interested in your domain name listed for sale. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Can you drop me your desired price? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If I can afford it I'll reply. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>By the way, did you receive offers from other buyers? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I run a software development company. Selling & buying names is not my >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>Please keep our correspondence confidential. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jeffrey A. McQueary , Ph. D. >>>>>>>>Vice President >>>>>>>>TBC Engineering >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>=========================================================================== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>= >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged >>>>>>>>information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any >>>>>>>>viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by >>>>>>>>unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this >>>>>>>>message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message >>>>>>>>and deleting it from your computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>=========================================================================== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>From: "Steve H" <spadmin@sauk-prairie.com> >>>>>>To: "TBC Engineering" <mcqueary@phreaker.net> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:48 PM >>>>>>Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello Jeffrey, the starting bid is set at $3500.00, for the complete >>>>>>>site plus an email list of several hundred RV Dealers. I have received >>>>>>>other offers, one was for less than the minimum. So far no one has made >>>>>>>an offer that was high enough for me to take it off the market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-Steve _____________________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> McQueary wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>3,500 USD. Ok. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you sell a developed site or domain only? I prefer domain names. >>>>>> >>>>>>Do you have an independent valuation from industry experts (appraisal)? I >>>>>>need an appraisal certificate for domain priced in your range. I consider >>>>>>your name as an investment. In other words I'm going to sell your name later >>>>>>and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the >>>>>>future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value >>>>>>of your domain. >>>>>> >>>>>>Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal >>>>>>company. Please note that I don't trust free or cheap appraisals. >>>>>> >>>>>>To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies >>>>>>in a forum >>>>>> >>>>>>http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/38042.htm >>>>>> >>>>>>Juck check this posting. >>>>>> >>>>>>After I verify an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations. >>>>>> >>>>>>How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or >>>>>>wire? >>>>>> >>>>>>Hope we can come to an agreement fast. >>>>>> >>>>>>Looking forward to your reply _____________________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Steve H >>>>> To: McQueary >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:52 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) >>>>> >>>>> Jeffrey I have ordered the Domain Appraisal from www.allfordomains.com. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Thank you. Let's wait for the results. I also asked about other reputable >>>>> appraisal companies. Several people recommended me NetSol.com and >>>>> DomainMart.com. I may accept appraisals from these companies too. >>>>> >>>>> However, if your budget does not allow you to preform a second appraisal >>>>> I'll do it myself. I will obtain an appraisal from another independent >>>>> source. But I will not send this certificate to you, because you may use >>>>> this appraisal to promote your name or sell it to somebody else. Two >>>>> independent appraisals will give us a better feeling of what your name is >>>>> really worth. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Steve H >>>> To: McQueary >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:52 PM >>>> Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) >>>> >>>> Hello, the appraisal is done, here are the results: http://www.allfordomains.com/appraisal.asp?Domain=rvclassads.com >>>> >>>> Let me know... >>>> -Steve >>>> ________________________________________________________________________________________________ ***EDITED, this is where the BULLSHIT starts*** ________________________________________________________________________________________________ >>> McQueary wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you. Nice to work with you. Looks like this company provides >>>> reasonable appraisals but I expected a lower valuation. >>>> >>>> Anyway now I see that your name has a very good potential and offer you the >>>> following. >>>> >>>> I set the starting price based on your appraisal. Then I find a buyer. Then >>>> I pay you the appraised value and earn the difference. It takes time to find >>>> a buyer. Can you wait for 30-40 days before I find someone? I want to make >>>> money without a risk. >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't claim exclusive rights to sell your domain. You can try to sell your >>>> domains too. >>>> >>>> I've already bought opt-in lists from >>>> http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com site to promote your >>>> domains. >>>> I invested about $250 in these lists. Unfortunately, I cannot list your >>>> names with brokers and auctions because I'm not the owner. You can list >>>> your names with brokers. We should list names with at least three-four >>>> brokers. The more exposure the better. Moreover, using different selling >>>> strategies we can achieve better results. >>>> >>>> Just email me your auction links and I'll use them in my email campaign. >>>> Looks like many buyers prefer to make deals through brokers because it's >>>> more secure.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________ >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Steve H >>> To: McQueary >>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) >>> >>> Jeffery, are you interested in making a bid on this domain? I have 2 offers on the table right now, and would like to sell this while it is hot. >>> >>> -Steve ____________________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> McQueary wrote: >> >>> I prefer to find a buyer first. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steve H >> To: McQueary >> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:32 AM >> Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) >> >> So you had me pay $60.00 when you had NO intention of purchasing? You are on my list. And I will be letting everybody I know about your game. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ > McQueary wrote: > >> Game? >> >> I've already bought opt-in lists from >> http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com site to promote your >> domains. >> I invested about $250 in these lists. >> >> Do you want to reimburse me $250? >> >> Moreover, I di dnot want you to pay anything. I just askged if you had appraisals. I also offered you to order a sceond appraisal from another company. I wanted to do it myself. It was free for you... >> >> I don't understand you. You lost a good chance to sell your name through my opt-in lists. I paid $250 for them but it's free for you. >> >> It's clear that you are playing games with me >> >> You wrote >> "I have 2 offers on the table right now". Please send me contact details of those biders. I bet you don't have any other bidders. It's a trick to make me to pay for your name. >> >> If you post something bad about me I'll let know everybody about your business practices. >> >> It was a good lesson for me. Thank you. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ > From: Steve H > To: McQueary > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:54 AM > Subject: Re: rvclassads.com (sent 09/28/05) > > My freind, here is a quote from you: > McQueary wrote: > >3,500 USD. Ok. > >Do you sell a developed site or domain only? I prefer domain names. > >Do you have an independent valuation from industry experts (appraisal)? I >need an appraisal certificate for domain priced in your range. I consider >your name as an investment. In other words I'm going to sell your name later >and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the >future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value >of your domain. > >Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal >company. Please note that I don't trust free or cheap appraisals. > >To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies >in a forum > >http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/38042.htm > >Juck check this posting. > >After I verify an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations. > >How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or >wire? > >And I am supposed to believe you purchased a list for JUST MY DOMAIN? Is your real name Jeffrey McQueary? You wont be able to do this to anyone again if they do a google search for your name in about 36 hours. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ McQueary wrote: > I said Ok. It means that I've got your price. I never wrote: > > "I offer you $3,500". > > It was your quote. > > I'll watch Google. > > If I see that you posted false information about my name I'll post in 5-6 major forums about you and your business. You name will be also found in Google with a lot of negative feedback > > I will aslo ask my attorney to start a lawsuit against you. You'll have to recover all possible financial losses I'll have after your fake postings. > > This is a serious matter for me. I lost $250 and you are going to post misleading infromation about me. > > I'll also report your illegal business (domain speculation is prohibited in many states) to your local Tax inspector. Some of your names have trademark problems and they will be reported to appropriate companies and your registrar. > > If you don't want to resolve problems in friendly manner let's start a war! ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ I do not know your game, or what your angle is. I do know you said "$3500? Fine!" You also asked how I would like to be paid, via paypal, wire, etc. That sounds like an offer to me. Unless you explain your position, and why you did this to me, this entire email correspondeance, good and the bad will be published. I am a very straight forward person and do not understand your angle. You are saying you purchased an email list. From whome did you purchase it? Also, you claim to be a PHD, are you really? Lastly, go ahead and report me to whoever the hell you want, I have nothing to hide, I have done no such "speculating" you claim is illegal. I live in the state of Wisconsin, you have all my information. Please explain yourself, I may be willing to drop this whole mess and waste of my time for a proper explanation and apology. -Steve ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ ***And thats it folks, maybe I am wrong in this, if I am then please tell me so. I still cannot figure his angle, maybe someone else could shed some light???
SONOFABITCH! I just found out for sure I really got SCREWED! Read this -> http://freshstation.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=37 once there do edit-search-mcqueary. FUCK, now I am mad!
OK, here is the whois for ourplace.com: WHOIS information for ourplace.com: [whois.atcomtechnology.com] Registration Service Provided By: Inexpensive Domains Contact: Visit: http://www.inexpensivedomainsregistration.com Domain name: ourplace.com Registrant Contact: P Gordon P Gordon (getawayhelp@yahoo.com) +1.3104305455 Fax: 60 Windsor Avenue London, SW192RR GB Administrative Contact: P Gordon P Gordon (getawayhelp@yahoo.com) +1.3104305455 Fax: 60 Windsor Avenue London, SW192RR GB Technical Contact: P Gordon P Gordon (getawayhelp@yahoo.com) +1.3104305455 Fax: 60 Windsor Avenue London, SW192RR GB Billing Contact: P Gordon P Gordon (getawayhelp@yahoo.com) +1.3104305455 Fax: 60 Windsor Avenue London, SW192RR GB Status: Locked Name Servers: mag2.magmacom.com trudeau.unitedstates.com Of course, I find it interesting that they list a London addy and a US phone number.... Please people, if you or someone you know was scammed post here. I am definatly calling the feds tomorrow.
Hah, everyone should call this phone number, if nothing else for the entertaining voicemail. "Only serious businesses will be called back." Fudge em.
Sorry to hear you fell for it dude... that's a pretty common trap from shady domain appraisal companies, to get them to use their services.
Jeffrey McQueary? What kind of alias is that? When I saw the thread name I burst out laughing. I thought it said McQueer Thanks for pointing this dude out.
That really sucks he scammed you like that. That is the problem with the net these days. Dishonest people like "Jeffrey Mcqueary" makes it hard for the rest of us honest webmasters to make a living. Don't worry, someone is going to rip him off to. It is only a matter of time. You don't screw people and think you're going to get away with it.
Come on people, lets try and play ball here. [URL="http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=30755"]Jeffrey McQueary[/URL] HTML: There, even supplied the code Should look like this: Jeffrey McQueary
How about just forgetting it and move on? You can choose to either be angry about it everyday or just forget it and be a bit happier each day. The choice is yours and it's only $60.
It's an unfortunate but common scam. You think someone is interested in your domain and you take the hook. There are more scams just like it going on all the time. I'd recommend you take a read through www.dnforum.com, scams: http://www.dnforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=202
I used to attend some investment meetings where a few of the participants would joke about being members of the $100,000 seminar club. What they meant of course was they had done at least one deal that cost them that much. Losses are just part of doing business. Personally, I find it helps to think of them as tuition
First i did not notice the name you gave me but when you copy the email he wrote to you i saw it was the same he wrote me 100 % I have about 165 parked domain make a little extra money. One off them i forgott to put a price on like free to make a bid. He sent me the same email and i answered 300 $. I did not got any reply LUCKY ME. There will always be new scams on the internet beucase there is always people falling for them to bad..