I have good solution against bad contest practices. quitting, stealing etc.. Itraders works only one way. Designers are to weak. Revange of Evil contest holder can ruin our good reputation. Thats why itrader will not work at 100% Solution. I want to create website with Contest Holders Black List I need cooperation of some people with coding skills. All we need is to organise list outside design forums. Core of this idea is to create database of evil contest holders. Everyone will be able to add bad contest holder name nad give link as proof of bad practices. Form should contain: contest holder name, contest site (ex. digitalpoint.com) reason of bad note, link which will prove sin. After some time all designer will check list before they will start to participating. It can become very useful & still simple tool. Bad contest holders will get less responses. Desgin forums will be more trustable source of making money. I have webhosting account and i can use domain prizeme.net or drescue.net (digital rescue) on this purpose. I need cooperation to create this template. I'm not a coder. Let's do it! Waiting for your help & approval.
I would like to be a part of this, not the best coder but I can find my way around, and help test bugs maybe help moderate entries
To be honest, DigitalPoint would make up 90% of these blacklisted people, so it may as well just be made here.
I like dp, but outside DP is better for it's own good. First of all, here, our posts are not anonymous and we may suffer from vengance. So adding here evil contest holder will be almost the same dangerous as itrader. Secondary, in my opinion, black list should contain c.holders from other forums like webtalkforums.com or talkfreelance.com, more is better. But on Dp can be second list, smaller one for ex. weekly updated by administrator. I think of site with simple structure. Although making list should be well prepared Maybe i will make some illustrations of good and evil contest holders ? I will try to find solution on my own but it can take a LOT of time. . treyb - thanks i will contact you later. Still waiting for help offers.
Any ways this idea is good outside because if its started here in dp than when a designer post some comment regarding bad contest he will be facing quarrels with that CH and that will creat unnecessary chaos here... And regarding dp till now i havent had any such experience ya i have seen here many abandoned contests..where its writen logo needed in 24 hour and its more than 4 days passed and no responce... But i prefer dp is best...
it's been tried before, mods didn't like it, the posts got deleted and the thread was locked: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1427646 basically it's against DP rules. so yeah, i think hosting it off-site would be better. the easiest thing would be to make it a wiki-style database, where anybody can report abandoned contests, etc. the only problem there would be that no one can stop the CH's from simply deleting/editing the entries about them.
ch need to pay some amount to be guarantee. so need bank guarantee people here to act like escrow,.. with min amout like $50 contest + $10 for fee. $100 + $15 for fee etc. if posible to do that here. it's probably resolve the problem
Yes, basically it comes down to this: If the moderators had any interest in improving contests, they would have done that by now. Eliminating the "rate this thread"-feature speaks for itself. The same goes for the designers' part and clip art / copied graphics. The only solution is: avoid this place. Why not set up a real forum with job offers instead? Mainly those who have no interest playing fair will benefit from digitalpoint contests, and the "it's not in our rules"-attitude means that isn't likely to change ever.
1. DP is large, it took them years to become well known forum. and it is good place for low budgdet projects but it is very unfair for designers. 2. Fees will simply reduce number of contests for sure. so that will never happen here. 3. I think anyone should add c.h. to the base but deleting should be reserved for admins. Every submition should have proof - link - obligatory. Somtimes it will happen that unfair submition will showup. 4. My next idea: Seperate lists for not paiad contests - worst thing, and extending contests (count in number of days- or after 2 weeks -abandon status) 5. List shold be simple and become well known and accepted by designers comunity. List shold be checked somtimes and sent to admins of dp to block bad practices. I think well known desginers can gain admin status. I will try to make it. i'm not a coder or typical webdesigner so i need time to learn basics but i'm motivated. If you know some good templates or ready to use scripts, ideas post them to me by pm or email. I'm not a coder so it can take me long time. Remeber. I will check this thread for new interesting ideas. I think it is interesting concept and worth to work on it. I think We Desginers deserve to not waste our time so poorly.
i have all coding skills needed for this but really?! will this solve anything.. wont contest holder just make new account after being blacklisted?
HAHA. I completely agree with you Hecky. Its really hard to control. What designers can do is watermark their designs. That's one big step to preventing stealing of designs. But even that won't stop evil contest holder from stealing your design. You might end up giving them the source file for the design but they won't pay and just disappear. That's why you need a third person to handle all this. That's the best way you can ensure you'll get pay. You should only participate in logo contest on website that requires contest holder to pay for their contest upfront. This way you can have the confidence that your effort won't go to waste and you'll get paid. One such website is in my signature.
It will work. If Black listed Contest Holder make another account he will have 0 itraders. So Someone who gained some itraders already will be more carefull about taking advantage over designer. There will be less number of extended contests. You know this very well. 48h contest turns into 2 weeks game. Contest holders will be more serious. They will look at deadline, give more feedbacks will be given. What balck list will do 1. it will make real scamers harder to make business this way. 2 Designers will get little defence system. 3. Contest Business culture on forums will jump to higher level. Now be patient. I must polish this diamond idea and make it happen.