Is Israel occupation illegal?

'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories
UN Resolution 452

Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal.
Security Council Resolution 446

Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination.
General Assembly Resolution 3236

Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal.
Security Council Resolution 242


Eight Israeli reserve soldiers who refuse to serve in the West Bank and Gaza have asked Israel's Supreme Court to declare the occupation of the Palestinian territories illegal.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2236534.stm


The Israeli occupation is not only inhuman and the cause of extreme suffering for the 3.5 million Palestinians living under its subjugation, but it is also illegal under international law.
Source: http://www.jerusalemites.org/facts_documents/un/23.htm


The current carnage stems directly from Israel's illegal occupation of Palestinian land and its dispossession of the Palestinian people. Washington's support of Israel's daily violation of Palestinian rights and international law is a central cause of the intense anger at U.S. foreign policy that exists throughout the Middle East and South Asia. This anger is the soil in which terrorism grows.
Source: http://www.war-times.org/issues/2art5.htm

The UN General Assembly Friday passed resolutions declaring Israel's administration of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights illegal and calling on Israel to withdraw its forces from the West Bank. Of six resolutions passed, Israel was the only country to oppose all of them.
http://www.unwire.org/unwire/20001204/12040_story.asp


For those who love their youtube evidence:

Israeli Occupation 1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-6tABZpkl0k

BBC Newsnight: Inside Report From An Illegal Israeli Settlement Outpost

Illegal Israeli Settlers Beating Old Palestinian Woman and Shepherds.

The True Face of Illegal Occupation

Resolution 446: determines that Israeli settlements are a serious
obstruction to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva
Convention

Resolution 452: calls on Israel to cease building settlements in
occupied territories.

Resolution 162: urges Israel to comply with UN decisions

Resolution 252: declares invalid Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as
Jewish capital.

Resolution 259: deplores Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe
occupation.

Resolution 271: condemns Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on
Jerusalem.

Resolution 444: deplores Israel's lack of cooperation with UN
peacekeeping forces.

Resolution 106: condemns Israel for Gaza raid.

Resolution 111: condemns Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six
people.

Resolution 127: recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in
Jerusalem.

Resolution 171: determines flagrant violations by Israel in its attack
on Syria.

Resolution 228: censures Israel for its attack on Samu in the West
Bank, then under Jordanian control.

Resolution 237: urges Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian
refugees.

Resolution 248: condemns Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in
Jordan.

Resolution 250: calls on Israel to refrain from holding military parade
in Jerusalem.

Resolution 251: deeply deplores Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in
defiance of Resolution 250.

Resolution 256: condemns Israeli raids on Jordan as flagrant violation.

Resolution 262: condemns Israel for attack on Beirut airport.

Resolution 265: condemns Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan.

Resolution 267: censures Israel for administrative acts to change the
status of Jerusalem.

Resolution 270: condemns Israel for air attacks on villages in southern
Lebanon.

Resolution 279: demands withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon.

Resolution 280: condemns Israeli's attacks against Lebanon.

Resolution 285: demands immediate Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon.

Resolution 298: deplores Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem.

Resolution 313: demands that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon.

Resolution 316: condemns Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon.

Resolution 317: deplores Israel's refusal to release.

Resolution 332: condemns Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon.

Resolution 337: condemns Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty.

Resolution 347: condemns Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Resolution 425: calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon.

Resolution 427: calls on Israel to complete its withdrawal from
Lebanon.

Resolution 450: calls on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon.

Resolution 465: deplores Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist its settlements program.

Resolution 467: strongly deplores Israel's military intervention in
Lebanon.

Resolution 468: calls on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two
Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return.

Resolution 469: strongly deplores Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians.

Resolution 471: expresses deep concern at Israel's failure to abide by
the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Resolution 476: reiterates that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are null
and void.

Resolution 478: censures (Israel) in the strongest terms for its claim
to Jerusalem in its Basic Law.

Resolution 484: declares it imperative that Israel re-admit two
deported Palestinian mayors.

Resolution 487: strongly condemns Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility.

Resolution 497: decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights
is null and void and demands that Israel rescinds its decision
forthwith.

Resolution 498: calls on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon.

Resolution 501: calls on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and
withdraw its troops.

Resolution 509: demands that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and
unconditionally from Lebanon.

Resolution 515: demands that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow
food supplies to be brought in.

Resolution 517: censures Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and
demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon.

Resolution 518: demands that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in
Lebanon.

Resolution 520: condemns Israel's attack into West Beirut.

Resolution 573: condemns Israel vigorously for bombing Tunisia in
attack on PLO headquarters.

Resolution 587: takes note of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its
forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw.

Resolution 592: strongly deplores the killing of Palestinian students
at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops.

Resolution 605: strongly deplores Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians.

Resolution 607: calls on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Resolution 608: deeply regrets that Israel has defied the United
Nations and deported Palestinian civilians.

Resolution 636: deeply regrets Israeli deportation of Palestinian
civilians.

Resolution 641: deplores Israel's continuing deportation of
Palestinians.

Resolution 672: condemns Israel for violence against Palestinians at
the Haram Al-Sharif/Temple Mount.

Resolution 673: deplores Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
Nations.

Resolution 681: deplores Israel's resumption of the deportation of
Palestinians.

Resolution 694: deplores Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls
on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.

Resolution 726: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of Palestinians.

Resolution 799: strongly condemns Israel's deportation of 413
Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.

Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in Israel.
General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948

Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal.
Security Council Resolution 242, Nov. 22, 1967

Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal.
Security Council Resolution 446, March 22, 1979

Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination.
General Assembly Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974

Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State
Security Council Resolution 1397, March 12, 2002

 

So no one has any comments?

 

Of course its illegal and of course its the stem of major problems from the region. Most people in the western world just can't fathom what its like to live under the military rule of another country, so they don't pay a lot of attention to it or think its only limited to the borders when in fact it isnt.

 

Well, your supporters know this, and those who are seeped in pro-Israel propaganda ignore it. I would like to thank you for sharing this detailed post, but it seems you have said it all.

This is the sort of thing we've been talking about when we challenge Israel's legality, methods, and human rights abuses. It would be nice to see the defenders of IDF attempt to refute this mountain of evidence.

 

yes it is illegal, no doubt about it, but if you try to fight against this illegal occupation then you are declared as terrorist ? the same definition if applied to George Washington will also make him a terrorist

 

I don't think anyone is going to come forward and prove this info wrong because this is the truth.

 

Totally agree with you

 

When I went for a trip to lebanon ( i know , bad idea lol, and my last trip there ), and we had to pass by syrian checkpoints and watch every word we said it was stressfull not knowing if one of those soldiers would just be in a bad mood and starts shooting for no reason. Im starting to have a tiny understanding of what the palestinian people are going through in Gaza. Its incredible how your eyes open up when your outside your own land of comfort isnt it.

 

when you say Israel's occupation, do you mean that land they got in 1944, or 1967.

 

Without Love, Wisdom, and Truth there will be hardly any peace in the world.
Those people who intentionally abuse other people are far away from doing what God wants them to do.

You can only be superiour to others when your Love in its full and positive Christian meaning is superior to other people's Love. Jesus Christ gave us a perfect example of what "Love one Another" means.

In order to achieve peace the love between the Palestinians and the Israeilis must be increased. They may start with showing more compassion to each other.
God is there where Love is.

 

All illegal occupation

 

It is notions like this guys which make it clear that Israel is defending its very nation. People like gkd are not pushing for Palestinian Statehood, they are pushing for the end of Israel. It is people like him that cause me to side with Israel - he is not for peace with Israel only all out war. It is amazing Israel is restrained as it is when this is the mentality they feel they are up against.

 

You side with a state with the worst human rights and UN resolution abidement record because you feel bad that people insist on pointing these out these inconvenient facts about the history and reality of that government?

Look, stop defining the agenda of pro-truth posters here who are sympathetic with Palestine and want to air some reality vis-a-vis the actual facts of Israeli occupation.

None of this is synonymous with a desire to destroy Israel. That is all in your head, and the many heads filled with Zionist propaganda. What most of us want is accountability, reparations, and a voice in the government of Israel for the near-majority of disenfranchised Arab residents unfairly oppressed by a theocracy.

Now, calling for condemnation of Israel, or accusing the IDF and government of war crimes, or emphasizing the bloody and unfair history of the current situation, IS NOT THE SAME THING AS SEEKING DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.

Please get that through your very dense cranium as I am tired of debating this point. You can't simply lump every view which is critical of Israel together and insist that we collectively want to harm people or support violence.

I can say that Israel's treatment of Palestinians is illegal-I am hardly alone.
I dare say we are in the majority. And I do not believe that peace can accompany a state founded on bigotry unless real reforms are made. We have learned that in the US, we have learned that from South Africa.

Israel as it is constituted is a non-democratic nationalist oligarchy dominated by militant Zionists. Every peace loving person on Earth should await the day that unfair government gives way to one which embraces Israeli Arabs as partners in building a home in this tiny land.

This constitution should protections and rights for all citizens, including Jews, Muslims, Christians, nonbelievers, and those of other faiths, without preference or restriction.

Without justice, there will be no peace.

I am angry at Israel, like millions of others, because this recent offensive was in so many ways the worst move for peace, in the region, and in the world. Are we to stand by while nations armed with our military aid brutally slaughter civilians on flimsy pretexts? How will we deal with the next instance of this behavior in the world?

The death toll in Gaza is disputed, most sources suggest 1250+ deaths, 5000+ injuries, $1.4B+ in property. This is fairly comparable to the 9-11 destruction, especially when adjusted for the relative population and GNP of the two. In fact, this was many times worse for Gaza than 9-11 when so adjusted. Even if Gaza is compared only with Manhattan, this offensive caused proportionately more casualties, injuries, damage, and personal misery than the WTC.

Most of the people were impacted by this invasion and imagine most Gazans have at least one dead, injured, newly homeless relative or friend. In the last few weeks, 1 out of each thousand Gazans have perished under Israeli violence.

Very, very few had the nerve to defend the 9-11 attacks. Yet here you sit, post after post, defending the IDF, and calling us to carpet because we don't complain about some firecrackers that caused fewer casualties than the first hour of reprisals.

I'm starting to get tired of explaining this to you. Something tells me you don't want to understand.

 

Why don't you get it in your head that there are people who DO actually want to destroy Israel.

As for the rest of your rant against Israel, when you speak equally against all the other injustice in the world, I might take you seriously until then there is little about your posts that I can respect, if anything.

1500 people is, in comparison, a drop compared to what else is going on in the world. You over-exaggerate everything that Israel does, and view it though such a jaded lens, that you have long ago lost all sense of perspective and honesty.

As for my comment, it was to a specific poster based on his comments - I do not lump everyone together (although you have done that with regard to anyone who supports Israel - so your hypocrisy is not lost on me). You are applying my post to "everyone" when I was not. That is your ignorant inference alone.

 

This is why I side with Israel. Israel is not perfect and probably doesn't deserve the unconditional, fervent support we've given them in the past. But as long there are aggressively violent groups who are openly devoted to its destruction, and who's positions are fundamentally unamenable(you can't negotiate with god, and god doesn't want a jewish state in the middle east) then I'll have to support Israel's right to do what they need to do militarily or otherwise.
That being said, I hope Obama's team approaches the situation as impartially as possible, without appeasing the terrorists. That will require some huge balancing skills.

 

Israel is practicing destruction of Palestinians lives, taking away their freedoms, putting children in jails etc..... It is a shame to support criminals.

 

If 1500 people is a drop in the bucket, what are the roughly 28 people who have died on the Israeli side due to Qassam rockets?

Y'know, the 28 people that all this was about?

Are they a drop in the bucket, too? A much smaller drop. Barely a droplet. A fine post to talk about hypocrisy. And how dare you question my honesty?

1500 Palestinians in a few weeks is a drop in the bucket, but a few dozen people over the last several years of brutal repression is justification for full-on invasion.

As stated above, this invasion constitutes more destruction to the city-state of Gaza than the airplanes hitting the Twin Towers caused just the city of New York. People always hype the things amateur Arab nationalists do.

I mean, if 1500 is a drop in the bucket, surely 2700 is less than a teaspoon.

Your claim that these people don't matter wouldn't be so disturbing if it were not paired with an insistence that Hamas' rocket victims were worthy of a war of vengeance.

So for browntwn, 1500 Palestinians<28 Israelis.

As far as the other world's atrocities, I focus on those which have the most current meaning and in which I can help to express a common viewpoint on behalf of the victims of war. You may find my older posts about Iraq, about animal rights, the environment, and the economy. I happen to post a lot on this topic (like you) because it is current and hotly debated, and because (like you) I am a staunch partisan. I used to only drop in once in a while, but I feel that this debate in this forum is as good a spot as any to defend my well-formed position.

I said "every view which is critical of Israel." Show me a post where you are critical of Israeli aggression or agree with anyone who is. Please. You have been ready with the same tired rebuttal for every pro-Gaza post on this forum. What is your deal? Seriously. Why are you so enamored of Israel?

And I object to your characterization of gkd_uk's posts as threatening Israel's very existence. He stated that he opposed all illegal occupation...whatever that may mean. All humanitarian-minded folk should feel that way.

It is up to world courts to decide what is legal about Israel and what is not.

If we can't make peace here, the chances of doing so in Palestine are slim.
I can't wait until the next controversial conflict takes over here.
You know, I used to like you. I suppose that's why civilized people don't discuss these topics.

 

The crimes committed by the Zionists terrorists and the illegal state of Israel are not limited to Gaza 2008/9 and the victims are not limited to 1500, this has been going on since 1948 and even before on the hands of the Zionists terrorist gangs, and it was not limited to Palestinians, but also other Arabs and non-Arabs.

The illegal state of Israel has been a threat for region and world peace since long, they should not be allowed to continue.

 

I do not think Israel's response was because of killed Israelis, it was because of constant attacks. I do not make the claim that an Israelis' life it worth anything more or less than any other life. I look at it as a nation protecting itself from attacks. I do not think Israel needs to wait until Hamas is more successful in their repeated and admitted attempts to kill innocent Israelis before trying to reduce or eliminate that threat. You have a childish notion of how the world works.

Your absurd comparisons about numbers being killed, 9-11, etc, and thinking it shows which side is the victim is just a childish analysis. It is not about numbers - it is the intentions of the actors. Otherwise the side who loses more would always be the victim - that lacks logic and you know it.

As for my mentioning the number of 1500 persons killed in this battle and pointing out its relative small number, I am not so blinded by hatred of Israel as you are that I don't see it in perspective. People are killed and murdered in wars all over the world and have been throughout history. Each innocent victim is a tragedy, but that does not mean the act that lead to their death was wrongful or should not have been done.

 

Excuse me, but apart from deaths, casualties, and damage, what metric should be used to determine the victim?

There is nothing childish about the WTC comparison, the whole world was turned upside down over that "drop in the bucket". I put it to you directly-did you or did you not object to the 9-11 attacks? Were they not also out of some perceived sense of "self-defense"?

There is something illogical about killing hundreds or thousands of people in "self-defense" when the attacks themselves were not very lethal.

And again, my passion on behalf of the people of Palestine does not equate to a hatred of Israel. I oppose Israel's policies. If the policies change, so will my position. There is no hatred, and as I said at the beginning, I am quite fond of Israeli culture, especially music. I am rather frustrated at the continued disregard for human rights and world opinion. I am outraged at the US military aid which funds this regime. But how is this hate?

It is simply not possible to advocate on behalf of the people of the occupied territories without pointing to the enormous mistreatment the Palestinian people have been subjected to in order to bring us to this point. Of course both sides have been very violent, and also had leaders who attempted to make peace. As the ruling power, Israel must shoulder the responsibility because it has not remedied these injustices and has in fact further ghettoized the Palestinian people.

Gaza is the victim because it is weaker, oppressed, and was invaded on flimsy grounds of supposed "self-defense."
Much like Iraq. I didn't support Saddam Hussein either, despite the many accusations, or hate America. I simply felt the war was wrong, and today most Americans agree.

Of course, there were plenty of nutjobs claiming that Iraq anti-war activists hated America, support terrorists, etc. But now that time has caught up to the American consciousness, I hope that people understand that you can love a people, and despise their government.