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DMOZ Unconfirmed PR8?

Discussion in 'Google' started by njoker555, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #21
    Point is well taken. I personally don't believe pagerank has much weight with SERPs, my humor site is #3 for the heavily searched term funny pictures and is only a PR4. Most of the sites on the top 10 for that term are in the 5-6 pagerank range.

    They appear to be taming the monster they created, no one who abused it should now be complaining when they are getting punished for it. Thats like saying if you make lack murder laws and I kill 10 people and then they say ok we need to change these laws and I continue to do it and get pissed when I meet the noose.

    I'm glad we can agree to disagree, keeps the wheels of talk in motion.
     
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    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #22
    The problem is that not everyone not using "nofollow" on paid links is "abusing" anything. Sellers don't control the motivations of the advertisers. If they're publishing a bunch of crappy links just to make a few bucks, that's one thing. If they're publishing only sponsored links relevant to their audience, and they're being selective, whether they're using nofollow or not is irrelevant.

    According to Big G themselves, nofollow is supposed to be used on links that you can't vouch for. Personally, i only sell text links on one of my sites, and I personally review and approve or reject them manually. If I couldn't vouch for them, I don't approve them. At the same time, I'm not going to add something to my code just because Google thinks it would be nice. That doesn't mean I'm abusing their system. A lot of sites have perfectly legitimate sponsored links that couldn't be classified as abusive unless Google's real mission is about stopping the advertising they can't control over truly worrying about lousy, irrelevant links only in existence to manipulate PR. If they really want to tackle that, they need to hit every occurance of linking where people act in some way just to raise their PR (cross-linking their own sites - which can be legitimate, submitting to any kind of directory - which can be legitimate, posting blog comments on blogs without nofollow - which can be legitimate, buying links - which can be legitimate, Squidoo lenses and Hubs - which can be legitimate, all article directories - which can be legitimate, etc). The problem is that Google is not only focusing mostly on the areas that compete with them in some way (directories, advertising, etc.), but that in not a single one of those cases is Google really equipped to separate legitimate uses from those intended to be fully abusive.
     
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  3. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #23
    On that note I agree, perhapes it is a ploy to increase adsense revenue, who knows.
     
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  4. jhmattern

    jhmattern Illustrious Member

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    #24
    Double post. Please remove.
     
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    enriquerojas Active Member

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    #25
    DMOZ = Corruption
     
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  6. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #26
    Now whatever gave you THAT impression?! ;)
     
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  7. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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  8. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    jacobkell Well-Known Member

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    #29
    One editor wanted 5000$ for staying link otherwise he would remove it.Since webmaster didnt wanna pay 5000$,link was removed.
     
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  10. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #30
    I think you should read the whole thread before you post, then view the link below :rolleyes:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm ;)
     
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  11. story97

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    #31
    Yes I'm sure the 200,000 bullshit websites with people that have no other intentions than to cheat their way to a high PR then get paid using adsense is going to really hurt the web.

    :D

    PR crap has done miles more bad than it's ever helped anythign
     
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  12. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    amen! :cool:
     
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    #33
    If DMOZ gets PR4, it will be easier to get listed.
     
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    michiganfootball20 Peon

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    #34
    the internet is definatly not dying, but it is being filled with crap that is useless.
     
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    #35
    One man's crap is another man's treasure....

    dmoz is corrupt and needs to be closed down.

    jhmattern I agree, if Google thinks certain sites should not benifit from PR or backlink votes then they should just de-index them, not ask me to change the code on my website or to change me revenue model.
     
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    #36
    Well said. I was thinking this when I saw that problogger's page rank dropped. If he starts dropping out of the search results for blogging related keywords they will be doing their users an injustice. His is the most relevant blog on the subject and therefore should have a better page rank than 4. Period
     
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    Remotay Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Buying and selling links will ALWAYS happen. Theres no other way to rank search results well.
     
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    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    #38
    it's intresting but why the info of dmoz can be deleted?:confused::confused:
     
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    enriquerojas Active Member

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    #39
    DMOZ is a thing of the past. One of my sites has beat the competition they have higher PR, they are in DMOZ and I am not in DMOZ, I have less PR, and I still own them.

    Yes, probably if I had a DMOZ link I will owned them more, but to be honest, I don't care about DMOZ any more.

    And I don't care about PR neither. Google is not the only search engine, and they are all ready working with some meta crawlers test.

    But thats another topic. :)
     
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    #40
    it's been 6 months by now I submitted my site. and no word from dmoz..mys ite is not listed yet
     
    mubheer, Oct 25, 2007 IP