It's not that I don't like what you say, it's that you seem to go out of your way to spread lies and half-truths. We're talking about Israel, not Jews. Are you a little slow on the uptake? So you're saying the answer to suicide bombers and rocket lobbing is genocide and forced famine? Again, you see genocide, ethnic cleansing and forced famine as appropriate measures of self-defense? Both sides use the "I am a victim" line. Both sides accuse the other of brutality. It's just that if one speaks up for the Palestinians, or discusses what Israel is doing, then they're antisemitic or an Islamist. Israel gets a free pass all of the time, even when it perpetuates crimes against humanity. A bit of a letdown. I figured you would at least throw some of your feces at the monitor.
This ^^^ is why I like reading your posts. You see the inhumanity and don't have to get all partisan about it.
mike savage loses a few years off his life every time he gets on the mic because he works himself up over nothing. my point is that this government will never fight wars the way they should be fought, and the fact that they deliberately fucked this one up should possibly bring to light that the "war on terror" doesn't really exist?
I liked this guy's post here. The unfortunate lives of Palestinians over many decades has mostly been brought down on themselves by corrupt groups in power. The Arab nations that profess "brotherhood" with the Palestinian people do nothing to enhance their lives. The Palestinian people are the lost people of the middle east whose lives are sacrificed for the politically corrupt govts that operate in the middle east.
Name one. We are talking about Israel, but unless you realize the mentality of their enemy you will miss the big picture here. I am saying let them kill themselves or let their "brothers" take care of them. If they can't stop killing people, they need to face the consequences. If you don't let people live with their own consequences you raise fools. I hope you don't have children, we have enough of these kids running around in the USA right now that have never had to pay for their crimes and now the crimes are bigger. Their are victims on both sides, but if you let the instigators claim to be victims and let them blame others for their own actions, then you are NOT helping humanity, but furthering the cause of evil. I was making fun of the french guys of a movie not the evolutionists.
Israel = Jews. Plus there is that super annoying, intentional misspelling (joos). Riiiiight..... The "big picture". Like how 19 hijackers, 15 of which from Saudi Arabia, were just a small part of a bigger picture that involved invading and occupying two totally separate nations, one of which had nothing to do with the hijacking, and the other, just a little bit more. Sometimes an Iranian speedboat, is just an Iranian speedboat. Not a prelude to WW3. Who are "they" and "them"? And who are "these kids"? Again, instead of speaking in code, just say it. You endorse genocide and forced famine on civilians as a means of self-defense. What's the big deal? You feel this way, why can't you just say it clearly? Yeah, but that still doesn't justify either side attacking civilians, right? Attacking civilians is terrorism. Israel and Hamas are guilty of terrorism. Or do you think that forced famine is not terror? I know that. But you're still a monkey.
You argue 2 sides here, one Israel won't let anyone live in peace in their land and that Israel is not Jew. More than Jews live in Israel, but also many are Jews either by birth or by religion. This segment is the main target of islamists. OK, off topic according to you, but on topic if we are talking about the islamists. We - life loving people Them - those who want death. No, really, why should Israel feed them if they keep trying to "bite the hand that feeds them?" Do you think one life is more valuable than the other? If they can't control themselves why should Israel keep helping? Those who live in gaza have verbal supports on the other border, but why won't they help? Do you not understand this situation? No I am the monkey's uncle.
I don't know where to post it, but I want to post it while I am thinking of it. Suicide bombing, for the most part, is a response to occupation (real or perceived). Dr. Robert Pape, who has worked for and receives funding from the Pentagon has done a lot of research on this. That is probably why we don't see Palestinians blowing themselves up in American Synagogues or at Bar Mitzvahs. During the 70s and 80s, the Iranians were incensed at America, led and riled up by the Ayatollah. But you didn't see suicide bombings in America. Because the occupation factor was not there. It's similar to the situation in Iraq. Prior to invasion, Iraq didn't have suicide bombings. Or during the 80s in Lebanon, when the US, French and Israelis left, the suicide bombings stopped. Osama Bin Laden claimed that 9/11 was brought on partially by the American forces occupying Saudi Arabia. Paul Wolfowitz has confirmed that post 9/11, getting the troops out of Saudi Arabia was a priority for this very reason. Occupation. Real or perceived. When the sense of occupation is ended, so will the suicide attacks.
Cowardly answer. You have names for them, use those names. So you agree that the treatment below is warranted? Israel isn't just preventing help from Israel to the strip, it's sealing those people off from the world. You ok with that? Is it justified?
Not sure what you are getting at, I have said islamists a few times, but I don't know their personal names. But call me a coward. OK. Self induced misery. Do I feel sorry for the children who suffer? Of course. Do I think this is the best option? probably not. They really don't have many options that people like you would say is OK anyways now is there? Tell me, what should they (Israel) do to limit the attacks? How should they counter these attacks? Is there anything that Israel can do and not be condemned? If they shoot a suicide bomber BEFORE he/she pushed the button, would that be wrong too? You condemn everything I say and even try to put words in my mouth. You also try to say I have lied or given half-truth without any proof. So I am under the assumption that it won't matter what I say unless I support all actions of terrorism, you will disagree with me. If I say that all zionists are pigs and snakes and should die, would you agree?
That's better. I just wanted to make clear that you associate all Muslims with evil. Wow, that's pretty callous. Who are "people like me"? People who have computers with AMD processors? People who recognize lines from "The Holy Grail"? Who are these "people like me"? As far as the best answer, what do you mean by probably not? You can't conceive of a better way than starvation of civilians? DMZ. I'm sure someone, somewhere will condemn them regardless of what they do. But that doesn't separate right from wrong. Starving civilians is not right, regardless of whether or not you condemn it. I don't have a problem with self-defense. But you have this f**ked up cowboy view of the world, where you can attack someone pre-emptively, or you can attack someone's family if you feel the need to defend yourself against a threat, likely, unlikely or otherwise. Like shooting the man walking down the street, because he might be going home to get a gun. He's not a threat, but he could potentially be a threat. So in such a dark and myopic world, it's justified attacking others unprovoked in the name of self-defense. No, I wouldn't agree. I know some Zionists who are ok. Grown ups are capable of seeing people as individuals, not as members of a group. At least the ones I associate with do. We don't worry about someone being black, or female, or arab. We worry about their deeds, not their genetics or religion. You might want to try that some time. It might help you sort out Hamas from civilians, and the blurred morality you have that confuses the two and causes suffering you would consider heinous if directed against those you care about.
Interesting how you try to say that I said something I didn't AGAIN. I said islamists. Is that not clear? If you have to be childish and keep this going in a circle I will leave you to yourself and your games. I can't tell where you are playing a game or where you are confused about what I have said, it could be that you just have a bunch of assumptions distorting what you have read from me. Go ahead, read again what I have read as if you don't know anything about Israel, Jews, palistinians, islam or me. See if you can read it without adding in the assumptions, or if it is just games, tell me and I will leave you to play it with someone else.
Hamas took control of Gaza last year in June in this manner. They have brought this pain onto the residents of Gaza. After surprising and attacking Fatah and murdering its soldiers they drove Fatah out of Gaza and took control. Since then they have consistently sent rockets into Israel. The consequences to the citizens of Gaza are specifically the result of the terrorist Hamas group. It seems by their actions against Fatah that they aren't the type of group one would put their trust in. In that they are the only effective armed force in Gaza they have free reign to do whatever they want....and they wish to attack Israel. If people want to improve the conditions of citizens of Gaza I suggest they go into Gaza and disarm Hamas.