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Zorg links de-indexed!

Discussion in 'Directories' started by uttoransen, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #101
    Lets put another perspective on what or may not have occured with the SE is gone, its over,it happened, but its not permanent thats for sure:cool:

    For a number of reasons not least wanting to know about SE interactions etc etc, we have run one site for over 7 years continuously and this site has been indexed, de-indexed and re-indexed on a number of occasions

    If for example this site was de-indexed and we make some corrections then in our experience within around 3 months it will be back re-indexed strongly
    :)

    Now I am not saying that would be the case today, but I see no reason why it would not be the case, as re-indexing is an ongoing process

    What I do know is that you are doing an excellent job with your site Mikey and your efforts will prevail and indeed are prevailing today

    Keep up the good work and keep focused, the upside far, far outweighs the downside :cool:
     
    britishguy, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  2. DownUnder

    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    #102
    Makes no difference to me, some of my money coming your way regardless.
     
    DownUnder, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  3. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #103
     
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  4. workshop

    workshop Guest

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    #104
    Is this the first or are there others? Its most unlikely that your problems are unrelated. Surely you must consider the possibility that you have been picked out for a reason or is that just going to be written off as scaremongering? Bidding directories are wrong. Your site is a high profile site. Are you not trying to sell it? If I was asked to name a bidding directory yours is the only one I would be able to name and I don't even know if that's correct.

    Why not change the company you keep as well as the public profile you present to outsiders? I believe that you are one of the first and that there will be a few others to follow.
     
    workshop, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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  5. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #105
    No it isn't. There is no "duplicate content penalty". Google doesn't "penalize" duplicate content - it just filters it out, indexing one page and no0t indexing the others.

    Your penalty comes from the same errors that other directory owners committed. And apparently you and many others are not learning the real lessons from your mistakes.

    No. If you continue to repeat your mistakes, time isn't going to help you at all.

    And that's just one of the things some of these directory owners just cannot seem to understand.

    Addendum: I received a question by PM asking what is wrong with bidding directories. Here is my reply:

    Bidding directories promote listings based on how much money the site submitter is willing to pay, not on the value of the website to visitors. That makes the directory a travesty. If you are the owner of the directory, you are stating publicly that your recommendations or endorsements are available to the highest bidder. That translates to zero integrity for the directory. It also reduces the value of the directory to the net in general and to any visitors the bidding directory may receive to zero.

    That's part of the reason Google doesn't like them.
     
    minstrel, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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  6. smub

    smub Notable Member

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    #106
    well said! green added
     
    smub, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  7. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #107
    hello...

    im seeing indexed pages... is it .....de-indexed?

    PS... smub how is your schooling going?

    thx
    malcolm
     
    malcolm1, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  8. eddie43302

    eddie43302 Well-Known Member

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    #108
    mostly all directories are just link farms.. come one people you all know it. Now that google is cracking down on them (which is a good thing) directories will soon be going by by.. i mean who the hell is going to pay money to have your link in a directory that does nothing for you... i see most of these directory owners selling link for an outragous amount like $35 lol! Jeez come one them links are worthless now.
     
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  9. DownUnder

    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    #109
    well you may be surprised with the new revolution in directories, the quick uneducated will write them off, and yes your entitled to your opinion, just don't expect many to share your exitment or misunderstanding of what a directory is, and please don't confuse the term link farm with that of directory, they are two different farm animals.
     
    DownUnder, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    #110
    smub, although what is written is correct in context ( i was the one who sent the pm ),the real problem is more so in the wording and application of the current MK1 model.
    and that is a personal view only, but i believe with some minor changes this could be fixed up.

    probably best to debate these issues in a new thread rather than in mike's thread though
     
    DownUnder, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #111
    Frankly, the last two "revolutions in directories" didn't impress me at all. Apparently, Google was also less than impressed.

    Actually, the difference is negligible at best in the case of many directories. Put a link farm side by side with many directories and the only difference is in the site name.

    Why do you think so many got dinged by Google?
     
    minstrel, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  12. werewe12

    werewe12 Well-Known Member

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    #112
    Please explain. Does the sites name distinguish weather it's a directory or a link farm? If you put 2 link farms together will they have the same name?
     
    werewe12, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #113
    Is a directory that has NO listings yet considered a link farm?
     
    malcolm1, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    werewe12 Well-Known Member

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    #114
    A directory without any listings (yet) would be considered a template :D.
     
    werewe12, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #115
    heheheh very well said :D
     
    malcolm1, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    #116
    A directory with no listings should not be in public view. Seeding a directory with thousands of quality resources is a vital step to be taken prior to launching a directory. :D
     
    stoner3221, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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  17. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #117
    I was being sarcastic. I meant that many so-called directories reall are just link farms: You pay the fee, you're listed. No quality control. No value to Joe Surfer, should he stumble upon the directory somehow. Just about the cash and the backlink.

    Thanks for the laugh. :D

    Most of the directories I'm talking about don't have tens or even ones of quality resources.
     
    minstrel, Oct 21, 2007 IP
  18. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #118
    It's what I've said right from the off minstrel only they all decided to try and stand up and argue the toss with me, probably as I used the term 'Gamble' in my posts. :eek:
     
    The Pheonix, Oct 21, 2007 IP
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    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    #119
    I think it could be called debate , regardless below is a copy taken from one of the big 2 and i believe both are the same but might be wrong.

    no matter of what it is callled , it seems the principle is not as much at fault as the naming and or application of that principle.

    im sure were all on the same team in regards the good players staying in the game.

    I have written many times before what i seen wrong with bid mk1 and why and how to move to bid mk2 which resolves these issues so wont re hash it or push the agenda, and people can search these up, but makes for interesting thoughts at least.

    @ Pheonix , i dont carry yesterdays baggage, i move on and have even dished a few greens your way for some of your posts. who knows we may even agree on a few points now and then :)
     
    DownUnder, Oct 22, 2007 IP
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    patrickberry Active Member

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    #120
    On the 15 of august i made a post on why bidding directories are really dumb.

    Nothing has changed.

    I am sorry that a lot of hard work is been devauled by these changes, but the truth is, it is a lot simpler to try to create something of long term value rather than a quick spam fix?
     
    patrickberry, Oct 22, 2007 IP