ZOMG a christian terrorist!

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  1. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    #21
    If they are doing the crime/murder/bombing/whatever in the name of their religion, then yes, they are a [insert religion here] terrorist.

    If they are doing it for only excitement or the thrill, they are just terrorists. There aren't many who seem to blow stuff up for fun though. Usually there is a religion or cult behind it.
     
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    kentuckyslone Notable Member

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    #22
    I disagree. I dont think calling yourself by any title automatically means that you are that thing.

    If I went around calling myself a doctor would that mean that I was in fact a doctor?

    If I committed a criminal act and called my self a policeman and wore a police officer's uniform would that mean the police offeicers were responsible for what I did?

    To say that a person is a Christian just because they call themself by that title is ridiculous
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #23
    Sir, I'm not sure what your goal is here. I assume you are pissed off that this guy was a christian thus giving Christians a bad name. I'm not bashing Christians, but he was a christian and this bombing he had planned was kind of centered around protecting a holy christian figure.

    It's no different than when a Muslim blows up a market in the name of Allah, he is therefore a Muslim terrorist. You can't just pick and choose you think are Christians. Just because someone does a bad thing you can't say "oh no, he isn't a real christian!". That's no better than the Muslims here saying "oh no, just because he killed people in the name of Allah doesn't mean he was a Muslim!".

    It is what it is.
     
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    kentuckyslone Notable Member

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    #24
    Im not pissed off at all, I just think that it is inaccurate to say that this was an act by a christian when it was in fact an act by a person who was definitely not a christian regardless of what he calls himself.

    Also I am sure that there are a lot of so called Muslims who commit acts that would NOT be condoned by 'real' Muslims.

    I think we need to start blaming human beings for what they do and not blame religion.
     
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    #25
    Agreed.

    I call them "poser christians".

    Like (real) Christians don't have enough bad representation from some so-called "christian" groups?
     
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    #26
    I call them bat shit insane. Any adult who has an imaginary friend is clearly beyond insane.
     
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    windtalker Well-Known Member

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    #27
    You know muslims say the same thing when christians call them terrorist because of what other muslims do. So how is this any different? If there are such a thing as muslim terrorists (which there are) then the fair and honest thing is to also acknowledge that there are also such things as christian terrorists (which also exist) when events such these (as in the link by the OP) occur.
     
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    #28
    Oh dear, terrorist acts are not compatible with the bible, if a christian doesn't follow the bible or goes against it, then he's not christian.

    Why do some of you think ALL christians are terrorists?
     
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    #29
    Well put. If someone commits a terrorist act then they are NOT a Christian.
     
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    #30
    Exactly. As much as I bash on Muslim terrorists, I'm not going to turn around and say there is no such thing as christian terrorists. That would be biased and unfair. It is what it is.

    That's just ignorant. I'm not into religion myself, and religion probably does more harm than good in the world, but it also helps millions of people to live a good life. Who are you to judge people like that. If someone has an imaginary friend in the sky, and that helps them to be a better human being, who cares?
    Atheists are among the most arrogant religious group I have ever seen, and yes, atheism is a religion imo. Atheists have all the calling cards of other religions except instead of believing in God, they believe they are superior than others for believing there is no God. The fact that you people have to create a little cult around the idea of believing there is no God says a lot about your insecurities.


    Dude you're way off here. You can't run around talking about Muslim terrorists, then turn around and say that anyone who does something like this is automatically not a Christian. It's a very blatant double standard.
    If you agree there are Muslim terrorists, you must also agree there are Christian terrorists, if you don't then you're being dishonest and bias. Thus no better than the loony ass Muslim in the P&R forums that do the same shit.
     
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    #31
    ly2 can you feel the sarcasm?:rolleyes:


    :D
     
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    #32
    Nonsense.
    The priests that keep raping the young boys ARE Christians.
    The Muslims blowing themselves and others up ARE Muslims.
    The guy in the story that was ready to kill people to protect his religious leaders funeral IS a Christian.

    You can't just void who these people are because they have done something bad. That would be like saying if you curse or use the lords name in vain, you are automatically voided as a christian. It doesn't work like that man.

    Why the hell are you guys so worried for anyway? You think people are going to put you in the same category as radical Muslims? Don't worry man, the Muslims have like 10,000 murders for every one of your christian murders(or attempted murders in this case)
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    #33
    Oh.
    I feel stupid now. It's a very familiar feeling for me :)
    I just got caught up with everyone else being serious when they said it I guess...
     
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    #34
    lol, no problem.

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    When you doing any act for a religion or your religious beliefs you must be a part of that religion to do that act.

    Muslims don't kill people for allah because they are not muslims.
    Christians don't kill people for god because they are not christians.

    Makes sense everyone?
     
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    #35
    No, they don't get it.
    Now we have Muslims claiming suicide bombers are not real Muslims, and here comes the Christians claiming bad Christians are not real Christians. I expected more from Christians to be honest with you. I expect this dribble from Muslims, I actually thought the Christians would have a bit more self respect than to lie and be biased like this.
     
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    #36
    atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

    religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.


    I stopped reading what you said after that line. I believe you're the ignorant one, not me.
     
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    #37
    Atheism is a belief system, but it is not a religion
     
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    #38
    LOL. Please explain how a LACK OF BELIEF is a BELIEF SYSTEM.
     
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    #39
    The "priests" are probably some of the farthest off from God that you can still call "Christians". Jesus is the one and only priest that is needed because through him (only) you can have a personal relationship with God.
    I admit that even real Christians still sin, and many Christians have done worse things to me then any atheist ever has. Jesus is the only religious leader, and one that brought the message of peace and forgiveness. If one truly has Jesus in their heart though, Jesus will bring them through the temptations and hardships of life. No one said it was going to be easy though.
     
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    #40
    doesn't that work with other religions? yes, unless you think all Christians are perfect...which is not true on any religion
     
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