zionists & neocons in USA

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  1. #1
    should we different between the two or are they inherently the same ?

    who is more powerful from the two ?
    how effective are the non-zionist neocons ?
    do their interests ever clash ?
     
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  2. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #2
    Maybe if you could define the words and link to at least one person that fits each description, that might help others understand what you are really saying.
     
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  3. new

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    #3
    here is the procedure which you need to follow

    1) Go to Start > Run >
    2) in the space provided at run dialog box type www.google.com
    3) this will open a page of Google.com with large search box
    4) write 'neocons' in the box and hit search
    5) click on the 1st result that you get and read
    6) repeat the same for 'zionists'


    take a print-out of the above and repeat it 10 times, so you don't have to ask again :rolleyes:
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #4
    Yeah, to Islamic extremists and Jew haters they are exactly the same. So to you, imad, Polite teen and all the others who think like you do, they are the same thing. Does that help clear it up for you?
     
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  5. new

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    #5
    no it does not help!
    I am more interested in knowing the Amercian point of view on these questions
     
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  6. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    LOL, seriously? How do YOU define the two? And are there any people that you can list under each? Seriously.
     
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    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    Zionist: Someone supporting the existence of the state of Israel and its status a favored ally.

    Neo-Conservative: A former democrat turned Republican; usually because of newly acquired wealth and the desire to keep more of it.
     
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    Damocles Peon

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    #8
    You are using a very old definition of Neo-Con then.

    This is a better, more current, definition:

    Basically, people will often equate GWB with neocon, and Conservatives often point out his comfort taking a role in local affairs (such as education) with aplomb and extending welfare (pill bill) to those who didn't necessarily need it as points as to how he isn't a Conservative.

    They are different than Zionists as their philosophy does not centralize on Israel, nor does it consider it other than another place to spread "freedom" through democracy.

    This is particularly different than the more standard Conservative position against America serving as the world's police, welfare provider, and nation-builder.
     
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    They are just bunch of clowns.. but slightly smarter than ape.. :D
     
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    so who is in the driving seat the neocons or zionists?
    are they friends with each other ?
     
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    CMike111 Peon

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    #11
    zionists favor the state of israel

    conservatives generally appreciate a loyal ally and thus favor Israel too

    So I guess yes they have something in common.
     
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    #12
    loyal ally ?

    talking w.r.t ME, yes isreal is the only ally of america, but this is only because America chose to side with isreal
    obviously if America had chosen to side with Arabs, they would have become the trusted allies
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    But he is talking about Neo-Con's which I have yet to meet one. The term is thrown out so often I don't think anyone can really define it.
     
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  14. Damocles

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    Currently, with direct activity in two muslim nations, I'd say it was the neocons who are firmly in control.
     
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    that is why I asked if there is any difference between two (zionists and neocons) or are they the same ?

    of-course the definition of both is different. but practically do neocons exercise and power and control ?
     
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  16. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    If I am not wrong, Irving Kristol was the first of the neoconservatives.
     
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    Another doozy from the kid that accepts anything as truth (regardless of how provably false) as long as it fits the warped image of reality that fits his hate and bias.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #18
    Is this multiple choice :D
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    No one going to comment about Irving Kristol ?
     
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    OK. After more than a month, Irving Kristol is still dead.
     
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