The individual reporting stats are now showing for February 21, however, they have adjusted the "Daily Balance" amount downward by approximately 23%. i.e. if your daily balance was showing $1,000 at the end of the 2/21, the reporting categories now show that you only made $770. I have spoken with a couple of other users who have confirmed a similar percentage was also deducted from their totals. My guess is that YPN was reporting the full amount during the day and not deducting the cut Yahoo takes... i.e. for every dollar yahoo takes in, they pay the publisher 77 cents. This percentage is roughly what adsense pays out, so it makes sense. Looks like Yahoo is having a major glitch and the daily totals being shown were or are not correct because they are using the gross amount, not what you will wind up receiving.
So you're saying the SEC financials for google are false? Maybe the NY Times got it wrong too? LOL!! http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/16/technology/16ecom.html
What do you base your statement on? Speculation? Chat board postings? Google is required to report how much revenue they take in, and what they payout - as is required of all public companies. Those figures are audited and reported in the filings with the SEC which are made public. If google was paying out a much smaller percentage, their profit would be BILLIONS more than they already report- which would increase their stock price. Why would google want to report they made less? Why would their accounts and executives want to risk going to jail for filing false financials that say the company is making LESS money than it really is?
It was 18% for me but it still came as a shocker. I wish they would communicate better for this can cause a lot of mistrust. No one wants to see their revenue go down and not know why. Also the 77 cents on the dollar to publishers is WELL DOCUMENTED for Google is a public company and has to by law publish these fiqueres. If you think Google is taking more and giving less then you should let the SEC know for that would be against the law and Google would be in big trouble. This is what got Enron in trouble.
You don't understand the implications of that article and your conclusion is incorrect. I don't think anyone here is going to take the time to explain it to you in this thread about YPN, so you should do some searching. I also noticed that Feb 21 revenue was reduced.
The NY times published an article a few weeks ago where they said Google pays 78% to publishers. However - lets say that figure is based on the public numbers released on the corporate financial documents - its not taking premium publishers into account, who surely get a bigger take. that woul offset and mean regular publishers get less %
You mean that shoddy piece of journalism where the reporter translated Googles financials directly into a percentage paid to publishers? Thats been discussed, search for it here, Sitepoint etc.
That's entirely possible. They may pay premium publisher 79% or 85% or the same. If you knew the total revenue of premium publishers vs. regular publishers, you could get more complete figures. So the average publisher may only get 73% or 70% - the point is that what most people repeat what they read on a message boad and assume google is taking 50% or more. That's impossible based on their reported numbers. All we know for sure is that google pays approximately 78% of what they take in to publishers.
Back to the YPN reductions, it is impossible to know why there was an adjustment but we can speculate. I wonder if they are starting to reduce the publisher payout percentage to sustainable levels and on Tuesday they erroneously reported full earning when the intention was to cut them 25%? Hopefully Yahoosarah will comment on this.
Let me do some of the work for you guys. Read through the first page: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337103 The reporter who wrote that article is a dumbass. He came to the same erroneous conclusions that 16 year old kids on this board are making. That is some crappy journalism for an outfit as respected as NYT.
You mean the post where the guy said that the NY Times forget to include expenses like the of cost running data centers? If you would actually read the financials, you see that the poster was wrong. The NY Times had the right numbers and google does indeed payout 78.5% of adsense revenue. Certain premium publishers have different deals which aren't public. It is possible they are paid more - or less. It doesn't change the fact that google pays out 78% of every adsense dollar they take in. The 21.5% gross google keeps then has other expenses deducted from it. Next time, take the time to read the financials.
You know, its entirely possible that the % payout changes month to month as well. It may also fluctuate based on smart pricing. But dirtydog is right, this thread is about YPN
I asked this earlier but we all got on what Google pays out. What I really want to know did any one see a drop in their revenue from what YPN said their Daily Balance was and what ended up on their final report. I saw a 18% drop on the 21st and I have now read in this an other forums that others have seen a similar drop. So has anyone had this happen to them?
I just talked to an ad rep and he said that it could be any bit of possible things. Now with that being said I launched a new site which got a ton of traffic and where a majority of teh income came from for the 21st. But I said if it was suspicious clicks and international traffic then I would understand that cut obviously with a new site as big as this but everyone is reporting the drop. my drop on the 21st was 22% from what it reported at a min before midnight.
Not only did my earning drop 20% in the report, as of today (feb 23) at 10:15 AM my earnings are extremely far below normal, like 80% below... I thought they had these problems fixed