Youth thought leaders push for fealty pledge to Obama

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    We need you to forget about the fact you are now out of college and cant find a job in spite of all the new debt you incurred. Focus. Look at the pictures of Alba, Portman, and Johansson. Jay-Z, Beyonce, and other 99%ers also support him. You idolize these people and they support Obama. You should to. Repeat after me.

    "I pledge allegiance to the United States of Obama.
    And to the community for which ....."

    Be sure to support Obama's campaign by making a 35$ contribution in exchange for this lovely US Flag
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    It's amusing since the abortion debate started on his term . Obama 2016 - when all the states would have voted up laws preventing free abortions .

    I fully expect the demand that they choose weather or not to choose an STD after contact . Irresponsibility FTW .
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    We will let you know what to think and when to think it.
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    This thread reminded me of voting. I just requested a ballot to be sent in the mail. :)
     
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    guess such supportive action by actresses, singers and some other popular person in USA will help Obama. seems most of Hollywoodians are democrat!
     
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    Dude, they made a movie... 2016: OObama's America.

    We already know most of the public is mindless...But making a movie like this essentially says "We know there is no election this year."

    There is no election this year.
    There is no election this year.
    There is no election this year.
     
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    Unsurprisingly anything related to that movie is being actively suppressed . Even torrent sites are not allowed to have it . They even try to recruit hackers to help out Obummer .
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any documented facts related to that claim? I would love to see them. The worst I heard was that they had trouble getting distribution.
     
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    It's in all the movie theaters in my area. Torrent sites are not allowed to have it because they don't have permission to distribute the movie. D'Souza wants viewers to pay to see it. I think it's just a propaganda film. It's being compared to Michael Moore films...
     
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    A fair amount of it is Obama's own voice speaking, from his recording of his own book. It provides some background on characters that were referenced in his book... His natural father, his stepfather, mother, grandparents, the "Frank" mentioned 22 times in his book, the guy he claimed as his mentor... Rev Wright. Kinda hard for his own words to be propaganda. Mentions the nature of his association with Ayres. Interviews his half brother and some other relatives.

    Just because something is unfavorable doesnt make it propaganda. Appears to be well researched, and it isnt a hair-on-fire Barack-is-the-Antichrist kinda movie... Just brings up some issues and associations the Obama fans would clearly prefer not be discussed (and with very good reason). It's worth watching.
     
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    I think it paints Obama with sinister motives. As if his purpose is to destroy America. And, this movie is right before the election. To be fair, I haven't seen the movie. But it looks like propaganda to me. Also, certain points in the movie are alleged to be outright false. What do you think of these claims:

    Btw - I'm not saying this to support Obama. Honestly, I'm not that satisfied with his performance. My comments are just my opinion of this film.
     
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    That seems an unusual conclusion to reach without having seen it. Deciding that based on what Obama fans say about it seems more like listening to "propaganda" than watching a movie does. The movie mostly follows up on references from the fella's own book.

    I have No problem with what color our candidates are, but his vetting process was almost non-existent... like people carefully trying not to look at a crippled guy in a grocery store for fear of offending him by staring. I think it shows equality when you treat other races exactly as one does their own, not when we make exceptions for them.

    One thing that's been pretty clear all along, if people knew a little more about his background he wouldnt have been elected. Period. He got swept in on a fervor of people excited to elect the first black president and nobody was real interested in checking out his connections. That isnt a "racist" statement... It's a logical conclusion based on all the hoopla people said about having elected the first black president. I can say based on previous elections that any previous candidate couldve been sunk by any one of the connections this guy had.

    Anyway, i can say from having seen the movie it was well done... And the guys that tell you otherwise might have a bit of an ax to grind based on the fact they dont approve of disapproving of Obama. Those are the sorta guys that scream that you're a racist if you disagree with any of his policies. Seems weird, i dislike Reid and Pelosi for exactly the reasons i dislike Obama... Does this mean i hate whites and women? Lol. Weird world we live in, isnt it? Have a good one. ~ rj
     
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    I would say his success at getting elected was more attributable to, "at least he's not Bush." Or, someone that would be perceived to be four more years of the same old.

    p.s. Although Romney will probably get a lot of votes for, "at least he's not Obama" as well. And, I do understand what you mean about Obama supporters sometimes calling people racist just for disagreeing with his policies.
     
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    I haven't seen the film, so I cant really weigh in. You piqued my interest with the idea the film might be misleading, so I had to have a look. Here is what I found. First, apparently all the charges came from the "Truth Team" on Barack Obama's website. As an official response from the White House, D'Souza took the time to respond to each charge here.

    Whether the lockerbee bomber charge was even in the movie, the specific wording D'Souza used to describe his charge of Obama's involvement with TARP, or whether the president ever used wording that might lead one to believe he thinks America is exceptional in the same way every other country is exceptional. These facts are fairly easy to independently verify.

    I won't waste the time, but what I find shocking is that the president has actually gotten down in the mud with this guy. It would be like George W. Arguing with Michael Moore. If D'Souza can be charged with spreading propaganda, its hard to see how the presidents rebuttals don't fall into the same category.

    I hear that. I'll watch it when it comes out on Netflix or Torrent, just like I did with Fahrenheit 9-11. Not trying to make a qualitative comparison, but I don't waste money for opinion journalism, even when it is backed by facts, and even when the opinion matches my own. It starts to seem a bit like jerking off.
     
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    The itemized denial up there doesnt cover the stuff in the movie that was significant. Denying a few small issues (at least one of which wasnt in the movie) is kinda like saying the driver of the bus that went over the cliff was NOT exceeding the speed limit when he did it! Sorta doesnt make a difference.

    But fwiw, the obama "truth team" (a bit of a misnomer based on their track record so far) is stretching a little on those denials, even if they are minor points. The first is a point he's been widely criticized for elsewhere with cause. The second... Well i recall crying foul about the brazillian oil thing... So they're flat wrong. The third wasnt in the movie that i recall. The fouth is defending against a claim that wasnt actually stated. They make no challenge to the items in the film that were the most important.
     
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    The leading torrent sites have had numerous fakes of the movie uploaded to them or someone commented on any upload "Faaaake!!!" . This happed on sites like TPB , MiniNova and many others . Pretty much a similar phenomenon to CNN's comments turning 99% pro-Obummer over the night.

    As for hackers there were several attempts to recruit volunteers from the hornet's nest called /b/ (birthplace of the Anonymous movement) , however they were met with the usual tsunami of trolls and slurs.

    Rebecca I'm not sure if you're aware of this but torrent sites get their hand on anything and everything . Numerous critics only previews have been often leaked ahead of the premier itself . Unless Netflix will expand worldwide , movies on torrent sites are here to stay . How else do you think third world countries keep popping up "IT spekgilaitz" ? Do you believe any of them payed for the software license ?
     
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    Are you saying that if they looked a little more, they would have discovered he is one of the "mud people"? :rolleyes:
     
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    Ftr, i know the actual movie has been up on youtube twice but got yanked down. I dont ftr hold it against film-makers that they dont want their work pirated. Webmasters dont want their software stolen and bloggers dont want their work swiped... Just the way it is. It'll probably go up and down on youtube a bunch of times in the coming weeks.
     
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    It is expected for that to happen on the law abiding YouTube however with the exception of CP content never gets pulled down from torrent sites . It is literally unheard of a recently released , Top 10 Box Office movie to be unavailable on the dark net . It's even more surprising that someone would upload fakes of a movie after it is released.

    Only today the movie finally became available on TBP , until just a few hours ago the downloads where magically stuck at 95% . To me this is a highly atypical behavior and to have it going for nearly 3 months is even stranger . Add that to the sudden change of opinion in CNNs comments and the 6 million fake Hussein followers and you're getting a team of volunteer that works their heart out to make sure he gets reelected - no matter the methods , no matter the costs .

    If the Secret Service wasn't guarding candidates I'm sure they'd gladly consider in corpora assassination .
     
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    There's no question the Dems have a boatload of shills on the opinion sites. Have some friends having to deal with them on a busy blog community and they've had to go to a registration scheme to limit the activity to a minimum.

    Not exactly unexpected from an administration that's all about perception instead of results. Same thing they've done with the economy... don't fix anything, just flood the news with stories it's all better now {as you pump gas that costs twice as much to go home to a place that is worth about half what it was}.
     
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