Your Traffic DOES NOT convert.

Discussion in 'Traffic' started by riftshighway, Jul 2, 2008.

  1. #1
    If it did, why would you be sending it anywhere else?

    PROVE ME WRONG!

    I have a unique proposition for anyone selling traffic: I will post YOUR ADSENSE on MY site and we will see how well the traffic actually works.

    That's right, I won't make a single cent from the endeavor, but if you have quality traffic you have the potential to make serious $$$.

    The site we're talking about is in my signature.

    I have the best content and the best community, but do you have the best traffic? I don't think you do, and that's why I refuse to buy it.

    If you DO have the best traffic, let's make some money! ADSENSE ONLY PLEASE!
     
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  2. BusinessCoach

    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #2
    the problem is not the traffic, it's not understanding how to make it convert

    most purchased traffic is passive, not active

    google adwords is active

    a person is LOOKING FOR AIRSOFT...they type in AIRSOFT and end up on your site.

    passive traffic a person is on a site about the military, they are NOT CURRENTLY LOOKING for airsoft, even though they have an interest

    its like TV commercials or radio, you generally do not respond IMMEDIATELY to the ad.

    I encourage you to research marketing especially the differences between active and passive advertisements and audiences.
     
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  3. riftshighway

    riftshighway Active Member

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    #3
    Thank you -- I am very aware of the differences between the two. You'll note however that both passive and active marketing ends with someone being shown the product.

    The offer stands; if you can drive quality traffic to my site, you can have all of the income. What's the point of this traffic if they don't click on anything?
     
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    ZDavis Peon

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    #4
    The point of all the traffic is normally to boost traffic stats for sales purposes.
     
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #5
    I don't think you are aware of the differences

    If you were, you wouldn't make such a ridiculous offer.

    Yes..the "END" with someone being shown the product

    But 1) it doesnt mean they will respond
    2) as you said it "ends" meaning there is a PROCESS before then

    You have no process, you want to send passive traffic to a home page and get ad clicks

    you don't use traffic to try to convert to clicks...thats foolish

    and anyone who would think that concept is sound is ignorant about marketing


    your missing my point...your offer is flawed

    sending traffic direct to some page that has adsense on it will convert poorly

    you should be using a multistep method. CONVERSION has to do with the process you use from the FIRST PAGE

    you don't even have a landing page...something that is necessary to convert

    GREAT TRAFFIC + 0 Landing page = poor results

    your offer is not one anyone that knows about traffic would take.

    On the same token, you don't understand adsense either

    DId you set up your site for the express purpose to have people come and click ads? If so, then you are missing the boat.

    When was the last time YOU went to a site, just to go click an ad?

    You probably didn't ever do it, unless you are involved in some sort of fraud.

    People go to sites to GET SOMETHING...clicking ads are a result of the amount of time they spend on your site.

    Just cuz someone comes to your site for the VERY FIRST TIME, doesnt mean they will click an ad.

    How many sites do you visit ONLY ONCE, maybe even through an ad, yet you never clicked an ad on that site. You just poked around and left.

    People are not in the habit of clicking ads, especially at sites they are not familiar with.

    As honorable and as much "sense" as you think your making.

    Your offer is illogical from a business perspective.

    Again, my encouragement is you educate yourself on advertising and marketing, because so far...you have a major lack of understanding of the basics.
     
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    BusinessCoach Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Lets not even talk about the facts that you don't even have adsense anywhere on the home page (so you expect people to search around your site to find an ad to click???)

    and of course the fact that your site does not make it clear who it targets without much scrutiny

    most people (even airsoft fans) will end up leaving your site before they get too far.
     
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  7. riftshighway

    riftshighway Active Member

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    #7
    You keep talking about conversion--my site is not a sales site. It has legitimate information about a legitimate topic. I'm not selling anything.

    You should really try looking at my main page.

    Absolutely not. Like I said, you should try looking at my website. It's about content, content, content. I have hundreds of pages of useful information that wasn't intended for adsense.

    What you don't understand is that targeted traffic that recieves useful information will return multiple times.

    The site wasn't designed for adsense--it's merely an afterthought that recieves attention after the customer recieves his or her useful information.

    Jeez louiz is there anyone who builds useful sites anymore?
     
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    riftshighway Active Member

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    #8
    Okay, you are seriously not with it.

    I don't have any adsense on my site because I haven't found the marketing manager yet. I hate to be rude, but, duh! I said that in my first post.

    It...targets...airsoft...players?
     
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    #9
    i will end with this

    you want someone else to prove something that you dont understand

    you blame someone else for your own lack of success

    if adsense doesnt convert on YOUR site....it must be the traffic???

    BWHAHAHAHA....come on....really???

    Right now you don't even know if adsense will convert from ANYTHING...yet someone (at their expense) should try to test it on your site?

    and YOU know who the site targets...but I am an airsoft player myself

    and the bottom line is, your site is poorly done...it is not clear within the first 5 seconds your site is for airsoft to a new visitor

    I'm done...hopefully no one is foolish enough to take up your offer.
     
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    #10
    BusinessCoach, you are missing the point.
     
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    #11
    BusinessCoach I'm not going to dignify your last post with a comment. You really don't understand what's going on at all. My keyword density for Airsoft is 5% on my main page and you can't figure it out?

    The offer stands, albeit muddied with the ridiculous prior posts. For anyone who knows how to market websites, this is a very good deal. They say that content is key, and I've taken weeks to make the content. All you have to do is drive people to the website.
     
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    #12
    my mistake

    your target is SEARCH ENGINES...(who look at keyword density)

    I thought you were targeting HUMANS

    WHO SKIM a website for about 4 seconds to see if they want to stay or click the [x]

    "they" say a lot of things....including "many want something for nothing"


    Word to the wise...content is ONE key...takes a lot more to make money on the net...take it from someone who does over 6 figures a year from it.

    or, from someone asking YOU TO SPEND YOUR MONEY to send people to a site you don't own

    your choice :p
     
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  13. riftshighway

    riftshighway Active Member

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    #13
    I thought you were finished?

    First, nobody targets search engines-- search engines don't buy anything.

    Search engines are one of the methods by which you target people. Everyone's target should be people; if it isn't, theres a problem.

    Second, I don't believe and (more importantly) I don't care how much you make. I am not trying to make money from this website. Content is the key to my website because I am trying to make it useful.

    You've had your say, you've been completely off topic for the last five posts, would you please keep your promise to not reply?
     
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    #14
    I've often wondered this myself! If I could sell 1,000,000's of visitors that buy everything or click everything I would keep my mouth shut and create sites 24 hours a day.
     
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    riftshighway Active Member

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    #15
    You are a beautiful breathe of sanity :p
     
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