Your opinion about Israel is irrelevant

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Lemon116, Jan 4, 2009.

  1. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #61
    Do you support Hamas?
     
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  2. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #62
    Corrected. Would you still be pissed?
     
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  3. kaethy

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    #63
    Except that's not an accurate picture of the sequence of events that led to today. They didn't start shooting rockets for no reason whatsoever.

    1. Palestine, before WWII, people lived on the land, able to support themselves.
    2. After WWI, Palestinian people forced to move off their land.
    3. Palestinian people forced into a refugee camp with limited opportunity to support their families.
    4. World told Palestinian people to get over it.
    5. Palestinians refuse to get over it.
    6. Palestinians still live in refugee camps where it is difficult to support their families.

    Now I don't support shooting rockets. But I also do not support dropping bombs, collective punishment, embargos, etc.

    Both sides are wrong. Both sides have a story to tell. I'm willing to listen to both sides. But don't tell me only one story is valid, and the other side of the story should be ignored.

    Hamas wants to keep bringing the plight of their people to the attention of the world. I believe they should try different tactics. But that still doesn't mean Israel can do whatever and they will be considered the innocent party. Depriving an entire population of food, medical supplies and other essentials is morally wrong. And Israel will not win with these tactics.

     
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  4. spaggiari

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    #64
    Israel LOST the War before starting it...
     
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  5. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #65
    That's an inaccurate picture of the sequence of events.

    1. Palestine, before WWII, people lived there happily. 1900~
    2. Palestine, before WWII, Jews started immigrating there. 1910~
    3. Palestine, before WWII, Jews and Arabs were living rather fine there. Jews bought lands from Arabs, set up farms there etc. 1920~
    4. Palestine, before WWII, Jews and Arabs started having conflicts with each other, refer to the 1919-1920 riots. (Also look who started it there).

    They simply immigrated there, and some religious Muslim fanatics started this shit.

    Read about the Interwar period, when the Jews managed to grow their economy bigger by developing Palestine

    The Jews immigrated, managed to be better than the Arabs, religious arabic leaders got pissed and welcome to Gaza 2008.

    As I already showed you - Those who started the first riots were the Palestinians back in the 1920's, so please do stop blaming the Jews.
     
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  6. amanamission

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    #66
    And why did they start rioting, pray tell? Because the Zionists were such good neighbors? And Arabs are animals?

    Or perhaps because the Zionists elbowed their way rudely into a land already inhabited, and pushed the locals around like they already owned the place?

    Hmm...
     
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    #67
    So accodring to you zinosts didn't came to Palestine and said something like: we will take this land to build our state on it, a Jewish state for Jews only,right? They only came to Palestine to develop economy, right?
    How come there were no problems betwen Jews and Palestinians until zionists came to Palestine?
     
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  8. wissam

    wissam Well-Known Member

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    #68
    I got nothing to do with this but I have an opinion, humanity is insane, earth is no longer fun as you can see it might sound simple to say lunch 3000+ rockets on those while those could be your mother or someone you love.
    killing is wrong specially when you double the revenge 10 times, everyone is poor israel people, Arabs, American and others we are all slaves to media that is controlled by government, they make you feel like you are free and that it's your pure opinion, they put that opinion in your head by third party without you even notice.
    As long as there is human, there is war...
    Arabs are human, as the rest and if you think they are not then you still have a lot of things to learn.
     
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  9. imad

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    #69

    sometimes showing half the truth is worse than lieing, do you know this?

    let me see in quick what propaganda you have in your post, how many times should I correct you? you should know, that repeating the same lie over and over again, does not make it truth, same as if 1000 persons said a wrong thing, does it make it right? (hint: no :p)

    wrong, and here is the proof from your own "Zionist History":

    wrong, it was after WWII

    wrong, see 1, also total lands owned by Jewish was only 7% in 1947.

    partly true, but the part about who started it? see 1, and this came after Balfour declaration, where British gave a promise to give what they do not own, to whom does not deserve, while at the same time they gave similar promise to Arabs if they fought with them in WW1, then supported Zionists against Arabs with arms and by allowing the Zionists illegal immigration.

    Do I have to mention that the lands where not empty for 3000 years as the Zionists silly claims suggest? and that it was not desert as the Zionists said?

    so I think your post was the totally inaccurate one.
     
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