Young Americans Turning Their Back On Religion

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    Historically, the percentage of Americans who said they had no religious affiliation has been very small -- hovering between 5 percent and 10 percent. However, Harvard University professor Robert Putnam, who conducted the new research says the percentage of those professing no religious affiliation has now skyrocketed to between 30 percent and 40 percent among younger Americans.
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7513343&page=1

    The information age is upon us. There simply isn't room from bronze age desert myths. Faith is no longer seen as a virtue, it's seen as a self serving vice. Reason, understanding of science, critical thinking and rationalism is the new virtue. bye bye "christian nation".
     
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    austin-G Peon

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    It's about time...
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    It's quoted text. You know, what someone else had said.

    That being said, i already gave you an explanation... or does your argument rest entirely on you ignoring that fact?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    So I'm assuming you aren't letting the fear of blindness hold you back anymore..... :eek:
     
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    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    Time that they wake up, america was really a weird alien in the graphic on data correlation between religiosity and national IQ, it was very strange to see that US was the only country with IQ around 100 and with such high percentage of religiosity (above 60) other countries with those rates of religiosity had national IQ average below 90. In fact the more the religiosity rate, the less the national IQ, and often the less economic power of the country (except for oil money which requires no intelligence).

    Time to fix this error!
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    I was just giving you are hard time since you were such a blowhard about it. Your reply was hardly the mea culpa that was warranted. The ridiculous nature of your original post, complaining of someone's use of the term American, is made even more so with each new use of the term by you (whether quoting a story or not).
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    Next time ill not post articles unless i can first contact the author, convince them to reword their article, republish it and notify me so i can post it on an obscure webmaster forum.... That would work! :rolleyes:
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Do you live in a box? A small amount of research will show you the private shools that give out elite education like the one President Obama received are religious in foundation. Have you not been following the Notre Dame debate? The explanations eluding you for the phenomenon you describe are very easy to find. You cite Europes demographics as a contrast to the US and Oil Producing states and produce your own conclusions based on nothing.


    What do you propose? Reeducation camps for people who don't think like you? Closure of schools having religious foundations, including President O.'s Alma Mater? Philosophical views will change in due time, especially considering the quantity of people like you who infest our public education system. One day, the majority of American's may embrace your religion! Interestingly, the ruling elite in America will probably be coming from the elite and private religious schools for some time to come, leaving perhaps the unwashed masses subscribing to your propaganada, while the leadership attends church. Hmmm.
     
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    Obamanation, I don't know what you're talking about, I'm talking about a study about the correlation between degree of religiosity and national average IQ. And the correlation is very clear : those countries with a low IQ tend to be highly religious. Those countries with a high IQ tend to be non religious.
    And the US is an exception to this observation. In the US the IQ is average with about 100 but the religiosity degree is just below 60%.
    See in this graphic, the dot at about 60% religiosity and above the group on the right, it's the USA, it's an exception:
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    You also have another exception if you look at about 35% religiosity but with low IQ, it's another country, and here too there must be some explanation for it being an exception confirming the rule, just like there's an explanation for the US being that religious despite being averagely intelligent within developped countries.

    That's it. Now your nonsense about education and whatever else I'm not interested in.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Haha. Ok. I won't waste your time with education, or anything else you are not interested in. Another high school person. Does your mom know you are talking about religion?.
     
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    My mom is dead, thanks for reminding me, now I'm crying.
     
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    /hands James a cry towel.

    EDIT: By the way, I don't mean to imply that just because you are young, your opinion is worth any less. It's just that young people tend to look at things in absolutes, where as older people with a little life experience tend to understand that very few things are black and white. We also don't cook up lameness like "My mom is dead" to try and take attention away from our inability to consider the opposing argument. You'll find the older you get, the less you knew.
     
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    Yeah, that sounds much simpler than just admitting what a tool you were.
     
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    The number who truly have a right relationship with God has always been low. As it is written, many are called but few are chosen. It used to be fashionable or the norm to have a church affiliation now the cool kids now join the Not So Freethinking Atheist Agnostic Kinship. The true numbers probably were never that high but what people say is coming more in line with reality.
     
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    i wont post that link I allready posted on dp before that showed people of faith far outnumbering atheists and massively outpacing them in new recuits. Whats really silly and ignorant is to believe that order came from chaos.
    Stox, im still working on my leaves experiment. I know one day its gonna work:rolleyes:
     
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    You don't need to post the link, This study has found "people of faith" (it's funny how they huddle together when numbers are involved) outnumber atheists. The point is, among the young, those who are members of a religion has greatly decreased. Kids aren't as interested in bronze age myths to explain the world around them.
     
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    This is very good news because less religious people means more civil liberties. It's the religious folks who were behind prohibition in the 20s and it's the religious people of today who are against civil liberties in 2009.

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    Well that's just one reason this is good news, it's good in many other ways as well. Another positive that jumps out to me is perhaps with less religious voters we won't have so many politicians who do their best to fight science in the name of religious myths.
     
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    I don't know why, but I always find myself agreeing with you Zibblu. I may support the idea of the religious having a right to be religious, but on the other hand, if we can demonize these people for political purposes then so much the better. Who can argue against the idea that killing off religion helps increase civil liberties, like the freedom of religion.

    Those ridiculous religious people who think life begins at conception must have their heads up their asses. Life doesn't begin until that kids pops out 9 months later, if even then. If carving those little non-beings out of their mothers stomachs at 7 months for the purpose of scientific experimentation or birth control, the planet will be that much better off. Those silly religious people have no place holding back science by peddling their religious beliefs into a political forum.
     
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    I'm often amazed by smart people who are uber religious. I know some people who I know are smarter than me(and I'm probably smarter than 80%-90% of people) that hold onto these myths. So it's just not a matter of cognition or cognitive abilities. If you get somebody while they're young you can convince them of almost anything and even have them believe it for the rest of their lives if it's reinforced often enough.
    Hopefully this post comes off alright, I'm kind of drunk.
     
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