"You Will Never Get Work..." and Other Such Nonsense

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by oo87, Oct 15, 2010.

  1. parsibagan

    parsibagan Active Member

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    #21
    Space Heater is the fifth album by Reverend Horton Heat, released by Interscope Records in March 1998. :cool:
     
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  2. premiumwriting

    premiumwriting Peon

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    #22
    That cuts to the core of the whole matter in my opinion. Content that costs that much, or less, is typically worse than useless. It's either being written by someone in a third world country who can't string together a coherent English sentence, or if it actually is being written by a real "native English speaker" then they're doing a very poor job on research. Why would anyone in the U.S. or a similarly developed country with high living costs consistently charge $5 for an article that might take an hour to do well? It simply doesn't make financial sense. Some might do it for a while to "make a name," although that's a misguided strategy anyway. Even then, a good writer can't maintain those prices long term. The other possibility? They are turning around and putting the articles they just wrote up for sale as a PLR pack as soon as the buyer pays for them. The ironic part is that the buyers who try to pay these bargain rates are usually actually getting ripped off one way or another, and they don't even know it. They think making money online is only about rankings, but they neglect the important matter of engaging their audience. I'm yet to see a dirt cheap writer who can engage an audience.
     
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  3. chant

    chant Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Cheap copywriters don't value their time. They almost always produce inferior copy work too, so the buyer gets exactly what they pay for: copy that doesn't convert visitors into customers.
     
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  4. harvester

    harvester Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Hee hee, love it!
    "You're lower than a snake's butt in a wagon rut," he snarled.
    Wish I could add something meaningful to the discussion.
    I could make more money working for the minimum wage here in the UK than I could writing for a typical DP client.
    I've written for a few DP clients, the money wasn't great but it was fun for a while. You learn to move on, I make more money in my self employed offline job than I could as a writer at DP.
     
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  5. dorothydot

    dorothydot Peon

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    #25
    Hee hee, love it!
    "You're lower than a snake's butt in a wagon rut," he snarled.
    * * *
    Then he stepped forward and drew his pistol. She gasped, terrified!

    Looking around, she saw all exits were blocked. Even the pool players had stopped, watching.

    But nobody stepped forward, willing to help. That gun was absolutely huge!

    "In fact, that snake's butt is way better-lookin' than yours. It at least knows when to slink away!"
    * * *
    Who's next??
     
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  6. premiumwriting

    premiumwriting Peon

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    #26
    It's funny - a few buyers complain that no matter how much they pay, they can't get good quality writers... Yet they seem to be deluded about what a good writer actually costs.

    This analogy is not applicable to copywriting at all. You can produce an automobile tire no matter what language you speak. Writing requires skill, talent, and a deep familiarity with the language.

    Writers in India, Bangladesh, etc. are NOT the problem. The people who pay these guys for "copywriting" don't understand the need for quality and can't afford quality, and therefore those buyers would not be paying us our rates anyway, even if the Indian writers didn't exist. Someone in India who writes absolutely useless broken-English fluff for $2 per 500 words is not real competition for a good writer. They can't do what I do, and therefore they are not my competition.

    The problem is American, Canadian, British, etc. writers who THINK those writers with broken English are real competitors. These actual competent writers (writing-competent, not business-competent) panic when they see this army of writers in Asia marketing themselves at ridiculous rates, so they drop their own prices to "compete." And THAT is why market prices go down the toilet. Because suddenly you have decent writers offering ridiculously low rates to compete with IMAGINARY COMPETITION.
     
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  7. dorothydot

    dorothydot Peon

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    #27
    Very well said. Thank you.
     
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  8. geegel

    geegel Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I find your ideas intriguing and I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

    On just about any site on the web, that line above would be considered a joke. If you tell that on WF, you'll be taken dead seriously. Now don't misunderstand me, I consider WF a great resource, but still they could lighten up a bit.

    Regards,
    George
     
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  9. parsibagan

    parsibagan Active Member

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    #29
    If any writer, irrespective of their nationality, mother tongue etc., can get their articles approved at CC, then their work is worth its weight in silver.
     
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  10. only words

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    #30
    I totally agree with this statement. No, CC isn't the only place for writers to get work, but it is an excellent place to start. They allow international authors to put up articles and name their own price. Any writer that can't get their work approved there makes me wonder about how well they know their craft. Plus, a good number of articles that sell will include a byline. If you have a functioning website and a couple of articles published on decent sites, you will consistently get clients that are willing to pay way more than $.01 a word.
     
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  11. iidesu

    iidesu Peon

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    #31
    well, looks like you're not quite in your mood. Anyway, just be upbeat!
     
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    #32
    I am obviously very new here, but I've encountered similar comments myself. While I am more than happy to work with a clients tight budget, I do not believe I need to do myself a disservice in order to snag a new client. I've been on both sides and in the end TANSTAAFL. Someone who wants finished copy with actual value must be willing to pay for it.
     
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  13. netyourown

    netyourown Greenhorn

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    #33
    Couldn't resist it. What's a space heater? We don't have much need for heaters over here in sunny Queensland. *s*
     
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